RE: Removing Local Admin Rights...
From: Craig, Jason (jcraig_at_ucdavis.edu)
Date: 06/01/04
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To: "'simont@pop.co.za'" <simont@pop.co.za>, security-basics@lists.securityfocus.com Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 08:25:19 -0700
Correct, most Adobe products (and many others) try to write to reg keys on
startup and certain directories. With Regmon and Filemon, one can set the
appropriate perms for only those keys nescessary. If I recall correctly,
Palm software has similar issues. With the Palm software, rather than
changing lots of perms to install, we just give that user local admin
rights, install, configure and take away admin rights. Everything runs fine
after.
-jc
-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Taplin [mailto:simont@pop.co.za]
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 8:37 AM
To: Craig, Jason
Cc: security-basics@lists.securityfocus.com
Subject: Re: Removing Local Admin Rights...
Most of the Adobe products don't run properly unless the User is part of the
Power User Groups or higher for whatever reason. I remember that InDesign
1.5 needed to install Japanese fonts if the user was part of the Users
group.
Simon
Craig, Jason wrote:
> Jay,
>
> None of our users have admin rights. Most apps will run fine. We've
> run into quirks with label printer software, and the usual problems
> with Adobe apps but we've been able to make things run without any
> problems. Most things are well documented, and if they're not regmon
> and filemon are your friends. We've been running this way for 3+
> years and it has made our lives much easier.
>
> -j
> -----Original Message-----
> From: KEN MORRIS [mailto:KMORRIS@kpl.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004
> 12:42 PM
> To: Jay Lopez; security-basics@lists.securityfocus.com
> Subject: RE: Removing Local Admin Rights...
>
> Jay,
> First thing I would do would be to check to see if there is any non-M$
> programs installed that are needed in the organization. IF there are,
> thoroughly test those programs under both O/S before removing local
> admin rights. Some software will run only under local admin user
> accounts. I have tried here and found that in certain programs there
> is no work around other than local admin to allow users to run the
> software. Even setting them as power users does not work.
> Regards,
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jay Lopez [mailto:jlopez_si86@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:48 AM
> To: security-basics@lists.securityfocus.com
> Subject: Removing Local Admin Rights...
>
> I currently work for an organization with approximately 25,000 Windows
> XP/2000 desktops in an Active Directory (AD) environment. Security
> from an OS and individual application component (i.e., Outlook 2003,
> MS Office, IE,
> etc.) perspective is being managed via group policy objects (GPO's).
>
> Currently, we are pushing to remove local administrator access rights
> to individual machines to prevent users from randomly installing
> unapproved applications, prevent malware from being silently installed
> within the local administrator context, etc. Prior to our move to AD
> and GPO's, we received push-back on removing local admin rights for
> reasons such as the logon scripts would not work, etc.
>
> By chance, have any of you implemented any of the above--especially
> the removal of local administrator rights? If so, what support issues
> did you experience? What impact did removing local admin rights have?
>
> I'd like to provide as many pros and cons back to our team based on
> your feedback.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Jay Lopez
>
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