RE: securing password list

From: Fahr, Sam_at_HHSDC-SFIS (Sam_at_HHSDC-SFIS)
Date: 03/24/04

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    To: 'Jeremy McBane' <Jeremy@devcocomputers.com>, security-basics@securityfocus.com
    Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 09:35:38 -0800
    
    

    A really excellent point, Jeremy. In a previous job I had to assist in data
    recovery from a "fireproof" cabinet. The cabinet may have been flame-proof,
    but was definitely not fireproof. In fact, (bear in mind this was in the
    80's) the backup data was stored on 10 & 1/2" tape. When we laid the leader
    of the first tape out on a table it had a 6 degree arc. The tape spindle
    itself was severely distorted. On some sections of tape the iron oxide
    separated from the Mylar backing. All in all, a terrific mess. The fire
    started in the building floor below the room where the cabinet was located.
    BTW: we were able to recover 98% of the data and performed the work for no
    charge to our customer.

    Thanks!
    Samuel S. Fahr
    Statewide Fingerprint Imaging System
    916 229-3310 (office)
    916 798-3089 (cellular)

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jeremy McBane [mailto:Jeremy@devcocomputers.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 10:15 AM
    To: security-basics@securityfocus.com
    Subject: RE: securing password list

    In reference to a fireproof box, what kind of media is not vulnerable to
    melting within from the intense heat?

    --
    Jeremy McBane
    Devco Computers
    Jeremy@devcocomputers.com
    337.993.3212
    --
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Josh Mills [mailto:JMills@cnbwaco.com] 
    Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 7:17 PM
    To: Dan Denton; beevoo8@hotmail.com; security-basics@securityfocus.com
    Subject: RE: securing password list
    I have a similar setup, I have an off network linux box behind two secured
    doors and i make a weekly backup that is stored in an offsite fireproof box
    along with all of my other backup tapes.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Dan Denton [mailto:ddenton@PAYLESSOFFICE.com]
    Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 12:02 PM
    To: beevoo8@hotmail.com; security-basics@securityfocus.com
    Subject: RE: securing password list
    I keep out password lists in an off-network linux box in a secured room, for
    which only I know the password. Of course if anyone else gains access to the
    room they could snag the whole CPU, but it's unlikely here. I also keep a
    weekly backup on floppy in a locked firesafe.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: beevoo8@hotmail.com [mailto:beevoo8@hotmail.com] 
    Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 11:52 AM
    To: security-basics@securityfocus.com
    Subject: securing password list
    In my job I have a number of username/passwords to various websites and
    machines that I must keep track of.  I was soliciting ideas on how to store
    these passwords securely.  
    Encrypting them with a passphrase seems counterproductive since the file may
    not be accessed for a while and the passphrase might be forgotten. Would
    biometrics be a safer idea? What security methods do you use to secure a
    list such as this? 
    Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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