RE: Auditing / Logging
From: Rob Shein (shoten_at_starpower.net)
Date: 01/20/04
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To: <steve@logicallysecure.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:48:08 -0500
True, but the question was one of keylogging; as a keylogger it is the most
reliable and trouble-free solution. I wouldn't rely upon it for the entire
logging solution, but it will store the exact commands given in the course
of the test, complete with any options provided.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Armstrong [mailto:steve@logicallysecure.org]
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 5:50 PM
> To: 'Rob Shein'
> Cc: security-basics@securityfocus.com; pen-test@securityfocus.com
> Subject: RE: Auditing / Logging
>
>
> Rob
>
> Having used Keykatcher, I must advise you that it has one (excuse the
> pun) key limitation - it only replays the keystrokes.
>
> By this I mean it re-enters the keystrokes to an output
> computer and thus the use of curser keys will move live the
> curser round the screen. This results in an output that is
> not always replayable, understandable and certainly rarely
> usable as evidence as to in what order commands were issued.
> In my experience to glean any useful information, the output
> must be watched in case critical output is
> overwritten/overtyped by the roving curser.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Steve A
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Shein [mailto:shoten@starpower.net]
> Sent: 17 January 2004 01:01
> To: 'Don Parker'; 'R. DuFresne'
> Cc: 'n30'; security-basics@securityfocus.com;
> pen-test@securityfocus.com
> Subject: RE: Auditing / Logging
>
>
> If you want the function of a keylogger without having to
> worry about software/OS compatibility, simply use a Key
> Katcher (www.keykatcher.com) between your keyboard and
> computer. Just be sure to sed out any password/login
> combinations to your own stuff that you use. Oh, one thing;
> I don't think it'll work on Sun hardware.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Don Parker [mailto:dparker@rigelksecurity.com]
> > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 6:18 PM
> > To: R. DuFresne; Don Parker
> > Cc: n30; security-basics@securityfocus.com;
> pen-test@securityfocus.com
> > Subject: Re: Auditing / Logging
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, you raise a valid point as to the commands not being logged.
> > Again I would prefer simplicity, so just install a
> keylogger. There is
> > no need to overcomplicate things. Though a keylogger will not work
> > on most *nix systems to my knowledge. Though all of this should be
> > negotiated with the client prior to the pen test being done
> ie: what
> > kinds of logs will be retained and the such. This is one
> thing which
> > should be spelt out clearly prior to any pen test actually
> > taking place.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > -------------------------------------------
> > Don Parker, GCIA
> > Intrusion Detection Specialist
> > Rigel Kent Security & Advisory Services Inc
> www.rigelksecurity.com ph
> > :613.249.8340 fax:613.249.8319
> > --------------------------------------------
> >
> > On Jan 12, "R. DuFresne" <dufresne@sysinfo.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Don Parker wrote:
> >
> > > The simplest solution would be to simply log all activity using
> > > tcpdump in binary format. This decreases the file size,
> is faster,
> > > and allows
> > you to manipulate it after.
> > > You can also input this binary log into any protocol
> > analyzer afterwards as well ie:
> > > ethereal, etherpeek nx and the such.
> > >
> > > Doing the above also gives you and your client a copy of
> > exactly what
> > > it is you have
> > > done during your pen test should there be any
> questions/complaints.
> >
> >
> > Which s great on the data being obtained, yyet fails to retain the
> > nature of the exact command that retrieved the data, so
> make sure one
> > either tee's allcommands to a file <date stamps can help
> here> or one
> > runs script or something.
> > This helps if one has data results that are similiar and they
> > need to know which command applies to which data, as well as
> > make it possible to dupe scenarios.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ron DuFresne
> > --
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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