RE: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS

From: Depp, Dennis M. (deppdm_at_ornl.gov)
Date: 11/29/03

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To: Matt Burnett <marukka@mac.com>, Steve <securityfocus@delahunty.com>, ZyberGeek@comcast.net, security-basics@securityfocus.com

    Yes you can do this, but how do you identify which machines need hotfixes installed?

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Matt Burnett [mailto:marukka@mac.com]
    Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 10:59 PM
    To: Depp, Dennis M.; Steve; ZyberGeek@comcast.net; security-basics@securityfocus.com
    Subject: Re: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS

    As far as installing hotfixes with altiris. Couldnąt you just use RapiDeploy
    and make a RIP that just executes the hotfix and push that out via the
    console?

    On 11/26/03 5:56 AM, "Depp, Dennis M." <deppdm@ornl.gov> wrote:

    > We have recently installed SMS 2.0. Before that we evaluated both
    > Altiris and SMS. Both products were very similar in setup, design and
    > architecture. There were two items that pushed us to choose SMS over
    > Altiris. First we have an Enterprise Agreement with Microsoft which
    > includes the CALS for SMS. This made the cost of implementing SMS very
    > affordable. Second Altiris lack the ease of deploying hotfixes that
    > came with the SUS Feature Pack for SMS. Both of these products require
    > significant planning for a smooth installation.
    >
    > Denny
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Steve [mailto:securityfocus@delahunty.com]
    > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 4:59 PM
    > To: Depp, Dennis M.; ZyberGeek@comcast.net;
    > security-basics@securityfocus.com
    > Subject: Re: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS
    >
    > I'll assume you mean "wins" in terms of security. I think the security
    > areas/issues would resolve around:
    > - encryption from the server to the desktop
    > - system admin management access control
    > - what else?
    >
    > Network Computing covered some of the above issues but not in too much
    > depth. You could review sales technical literature from both products
    > online for your comparison.
    >
    > I tried getting SMS working years ago and would have rather hit myself
    > in
    > the head with a hammer, which I think we tried at one time during the
    > deployment. I have desktop management experience with LANdesk Manager
    > when
    > it was an Intel product and another product called Callisto Orbiter
    > which
    > was obtained by Novell. We didn't really get into security issues with
    > those products but I can see the merit of your question about security
    > and
    > desktop management, don't want some unauthorized person pushing some
    > worm/keylogger etc to all your hundreds or thousands of computers for
    > sure.
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Depp, Dennis M." <deppdm@ornl.gov>
    > To: <ZyberGeek@comcast.net>; <security-basics@securityfocus.com>
    > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:09 PM
    > Subject: RE: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS
    >
    >
    > What kind of desktops? All windows or a mix of Windows, Mac and Unix?
    > If all Windows clients, I think SMS with the SUS feature pack wins over
    > Altiris hands down. If you are running a mix, SMS is still a
    > possibility, but you will need to purchase some add on tools from
    > Altiris to finis the task.
    >
    > Dennis
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: ZyberGeek [mailto:ZyberGeek@comcast.net]
    > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:03 PM
    > To: security-basics@securityfocus.com
    > Subject: Altiris Deployment Server vs. Microsoft SMS
    >
    > Between Microsoft SMS and Altiris Deployment Server, which product could
    > be
    > considered to be the better one for managing several hundred desktops
    > from a
    > security stand point?
    >
    > Z.G.
    >
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