Re: Statistics

From: Steve (securityfocus_at_delahunty.com)
Date: 11/26/03

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    To: "Alessandro Bottonelli" <abottonelli@libero.it>, "Jack Solomon" <solzjack43@hotmail.com>, <security-basics@securityfocus.com>
    Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:04:08 -0500
    
    

    Try some of the papers here http://www.nw3c.org/research_topics.html. I
    also read some good stats in a presentation once that cited the National
    Center for Computer Crime Data but I couldn't find their information online
    easily. One issue with statistics available is that it is estimated 85% of
    computer crimes detected are never reported. So

    Issues: insiders are trusted and have access to physical and electronic
    intellectual property.
    Motivations: financial gain, revenge, curiousity, challenge.

    Current employees become former employees which is a major group of
    potential perpetrators. Also, for insider threats, in my opinion consider
    the increasing knowledge of the typical employee in terms of computer
    aptitute coupled with the availability of hacker type tools freely on the
    Internet.

    When working at a government contractor in the 1990s, we had an employee who
    downloaded the tool satan and was probing government sites. We had static
    IPs, was not hard to find him. He claimed he was just experimenting, his
    job in no way involved using such tools, he was lucky to not get fired. We
    tracked him down after hearing from our corporate security group who was
    contacted by some extremely powerful government agency.

    On the topic, I have had thoughts of having a firewall between the employees
    and our datacenter. Think about when your professional staff are offsite
    and on another company network as part of their job, they get infected by
    nimda or something, then they return to your network and "jack in" and
    infect a bunch of other machines. Sure we should all have software
    firewalls on all employee computers but then again there is reality where
    most of our organizations probably do not have that except for maybe
    laptops. So even if the laptops are protected, one infected laptop once
    inside our network could infect the desktops. This is where intrusion
    detection comes and and related alerting.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Alessandro Bottonelli" <abottonelli@libero.it>
    To: "Jack Solomon" <solzjack43@hotmail.com>;
    <security-basics@securityfocus.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 7:22 AM
    Subject: Re: Statistics

    On Monday 24 November 2003 16:57, Jack Solomon wrote:
    > I often hear statistics bandied around like 85% of attacks are internal.
    > Can anyone point to a reliable/quotable source of stats?
    >
    82% Internal (of which 55% accidental) are quoted from a research (not
    public) of either Ernst&Young or Datapro--can't remember right now which
    one.

    > I'd like to prove
    > to my cynical managment that we are not safe behind the corporate
    > firewall...
    >
    Beware! You are right, but this issue is highly political, management
    don't like to be told they cannot trust their employees. Make sure YOU know
    how to state this.

    > Also, I'd be interested in stats on amout of money lost
    >
    Hmmm. When it comes to money things are even worse. Insiders have more
    opportunity, means and motive to hit you hard. In a research paper of mine
    (I
    found no one here in Italy available to pubblish it... wonder why) I made
    this consideration (which is not by far a statistics):

    -1- SQLWORM hits the Italian Post Office. Zero insiders, a unaccounted
    number
    of outsiders: estimated damage 150,000 Euros

    -2- CREDIT CARD CLONING in an Italian (Tuscany) Bank. One insider, five
    outsiders: measured damage 1,000,000 Euros

    -3- INS OUTSOURCER DESTROYS (willingly) some thousands documents (in order
    to
    look good on their SLA...). Three insiders, zero outsiders: assessed damage
    250,000,000 dollars (the value of the 5-year contract with INS).

    Be careful when (if) using this with your management, as we say in Italy:
    "wrap it with plenty of vaseline grease ..." <grin>

    -- 
    Alessandro Bottonelli
    CISSP, BS7799 Lead Auditor
    www.axis-net.it
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