RE: protect MS Windows 95/98/Me

From: Lee Seidman (lseidman_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 09/29/03

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To: Spencer D'oro <sdoro@comcast.net>, steve@Lan.com.au, security-basics@securityfocus.com

    For the average user, the use of POLEDIT to create a
    policy file on the server will secure Windows 9x
    clients somewhat. But to even the most moderate of
    tech savvy individuals, bypassing those policies
    through safe mode or just unplugging the ethernet
    cable will render that effort ineffective. "Genuine"
    security (if there is such a thing, especially in
    Microsoft products) does not exist on Windows 9x
    clients.

    --- Spencer D'oro <sdoro@comcast.net> wrote:
    > That's way off-base, at least for 98. By setting
    > system policies on the
    > OS using POLEDIT and storing the config.pol file on
    > the server, you then
    > set restrcitive policies dependent on whatever ADM
    > you use. You load
    > Group Policies from within Windows components. And
    > you set User-level
    > access control to make authentication for ALL shares
    > be done by the DC.
    > If you have a large number of machines, and
    > upgrading just isn't in the
    > budget, then it is totally feasible to secure a 98
    > station. The 98 OS
    > is not as of yet obsolete, IMO.
    >
    > Spencer
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Steve McLaughlin [mailto:steve@Lan.com.au]
    > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:23 AM
    > To: security-basics@securityfocus.com
    > Subject: RE: protect MS Windows 95/98/Me
    >
    >
    > Yes, that's a very polite way of saying it.
    > There is no security features in win9x OS. They are
    > all totally unsecure
    > operating systems. The security features within are
    > totally flawed in
    > all ways, there is no way of securing these
    > operating systems.
    >
    > The solution is to upgrade to windows 2k or XP,
    > using NTFS.
    >
    > There is no other way.
    >
    > Don't embarrass yourself wasting the organisations
    > capital on totally
    > obsolete and unstable operating systems.
    >
    > Consider the 9x OS Obsolete, upgrade to NT5 or 5.1.
    > Don't bother even
    > looking further into securing Win9x. It is a total
    > waste of time.
    >
    > steve mclaughlin | enlite technologyR
    > T 1300 135 251 | F +61 (2) 9402 8586
    > E steve@Lan.com.au | W www.Lan.com.auT
    > (MCP, A+, Network+, Server+)
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: French, Mark
    > [mailto:Mark.French@wellington.co.uk]
    > Sent: Thursday, 25 September 2003 2:07 AM
    > To: 'security-basics@securityfocus.com'
    > Subject: RE: protect MS Windows 95/98/Me
    >
    > I don't know of any software, but in this situation,
    > my hardware of
    > choice would be SCISSORS. Cut the network cable,
    > keyboard cable, and
    > mouse cable.
    >
    > This is probably the only way that this level of
    > security can be
    > achieved in these operating systems.
    >
    > Mark
    >
    > (Sorry, I couldn't resist)
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Robert Reidenbach
    > [mailto:pominciss@greendot.com.ph]
    > Sent: 24 September 2003 06:25
    > To: security-basics@securityfocus.com
    > Subject: protect MS Windows 95/98/Me
    >
    >
    > Hi everyone!
    > I'm looking for a software that you can install on
    > MS Windows 95/98/Me Machines that won't
    > allow an ordinary user to install any programs or
    > allow any virus to infect any files.
    > Would anybody know what they call these programs
    > and where to get them? Any kind of help will be
    > appreciated.
    > -Robert-
    >
    >
    >
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