RE: PIX firewall and ICMP

From: rogue (rogue_at_nocdemon.net)
Date: 09/29/03

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    Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:55:02 -0400 (EDT)
    To: dave hartnell <dihartnell@xtra.co.nz>
    
    

    why dont you just create rules to ping all your known subnets only? this
    locks down pings rfom the outside world and allows your users to
    "troubleshoot" inter-office connectivity all they want.

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    rogue@nocdemon.net

    On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, dave hartnell wrote:

    >
    > I agree with Brian. Any Any is always going to be a huge risk. It pays to be
    > very specific with your rules and the ports you open, who opens them and
    > where they go.
    >
    > Stick to your guns on this. It's you who will wind up being shot when it
    > turns to custard.
    >
    >
    > Cheers
    >
    > Dave.
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Brian Ford [mailto:brford@cisco.com]
    > Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2003 8:20 a.m.
    > To: Cat Thrasher
    > Cc: Security-Basics (E-mail)
    > Subject: Re: PIX firewall and ICMP
    >
    > Cat,
    >
    > I hope you recognize that the "any any" was a big mistake.
    >
    > This is an excellent example of the trade offs of implementing a security
    > solution. You need to weigh the worm clean up costs against the decision
    > to allow users to use ping for troubleshooting.
    >
    > Liberty for All,
    >
    > Brian
    >
    > At 10:21 AM 9/24/2003 -0700, Cat Thrasher wrote:
    > >Please advise your opinions on my problem. I had a permit statement on the
    > >PIX that would allow ICMP from any to any. Since being hit with Nachi, I
    > >turned it off. I am being asked my policy on when it will be turned back
    > >on. I have a rather large network and many "divisions" who work
    > >independently, yet access the internet thru "my" PIX. They like to use
    > >ping when trouble-shooting.
    > >Can I get an opinion on whether or not I should turn this back on...
    > >Thanks
    > >
    > >Cat Thrasher
    > >Network Support Analyst
    > >County of Santa Cruz
    > >831-454-5367
    > >cat.thrasher@co.santa-cruz.ca.us
    > >
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