Re: AW: Security issue in Windows 2000?

From: Birl (sbirl_at_temple.edu)
Date: 07/07/03

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    hong_li: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:23:07 -0700 (PDT)
    hong_li: From: hong li <hong_li_98@yahoo.com>
    hong_li: To: Meidinger Chris <chris.meidinger@badenit.de>,
    hong_li: security-basics@securityfocus.com
    hong_li: Subject: Re: AW: Security issue in Windows 2000?
    hong_li:
    hong_li: Thanks for the answer.
    hong_li:
    hong_li: If you move
    hong_li: > your domain to native
    hong_li: > mode and implement Kerberos authentication (list -
    hong_li: > correct me if i am wrong)
    hong_li: > you should get rid of this problem.
    hong_li:
    hong_li: No. We are in native mode and it's still same
    hong_li: problem.
    hong_li:
    hong_li: If the user can guess the domain administrator
    hong_li: password, the user can do any damage to the domain
    hong_li: controller even without logging into domain? I think
    hong_li: it's very dangerous.
    hong_li:
    hong_li: Except setting very difficult password for domain
    hong_li: controller and all servers's administrator account,
    hong_li: what else can we do to prevent users accesing the
    hong_li: domain controller or servers even without logging into
    hong_li: domain?
    hong_li:
    hong_li: Thanks,
    hong_li:
    hong_li: Hong
    hong_li:
    hong_li:
    hong_li:
    hong_li:
    hong_li:
    hong_li: --- Meidinger Chris <chris.meidinger@badenit.de>
    hong_li: wrote:
    hong_li: > Hello Hong,
    hong_li: >
    hong_li: > this DOES happen on Windows NT. This is a 'feature'
    hong_li: > of NTLM Authentication.
    hong_li: > You can, in fact, set your local administrator
    hong_li: > password to the same thing as
    hong_li: > the domain administrator and have domain admin
    hong_li: > priveliges everywhere.
    hong_li: >
    hong_li: > Anyway, it's not a bug, but a feature. If you move
    hong_li: > your domain to native
    hong_li: > mode and implement Kerberos authentication (list -
    hong_li: > correct me if i am wrong)
    hong_li: > you should get rid of this problem.
    hong_li: >
    hong_li: > badenIT GmbH
    hong_li: > System Support
    hong_li: >
    hong_li: > Chris Meidinger
    hong_li: > Tullastrasse 70
    hong_li: > 79108 Freiburg
    hong_li: >
    hong_li: >
    hong_li: > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
    hong_li: > Von: hong li [mailto:hong_li_98@yahoo.com]
    hong_li: > Gesendet: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 4:35 PM
    hong_li: > An: security-basics@securityfocus.com
    hong_li: > Betreff: Security issue in Windows 2000?
    hong_li: >
    hong_li: >
    hong_li: > If you use the same password for the local
    hong_li: > administrator on workstations
    hong_li: > as all other servers's local administrator, (even
    hong_li: > domain administrator),the local administrator can
    hong_li: > gain
    hong_li: > full access to any servers without asking
    hong_li: > domain info if you logon locally using local
    hong_li: > administrator account. You even can map to
    hong_li: > \\servername\c$ whihout asking any domain users
    hong_li: > info.
    hong_li: >
    hong_li: > I recalled this never happenes in NT environment and
    hong_li: > it always pops you doamin userinfo when you access
    hong_li: > any
    hong_li: > server in the doamin if you log on locally.
    hong_li: >
    hong_li: > Is this the security hole in Windows 2000
    hong_li: > environment
    hong_li: > or something else?
    hong_li: >
    hong_li: > Thanks in advance,
    hong_li: >
    hong_li: > Hong

    Take a look at this file I maintain (as time permits)
    http://concept.temple.edu/sysadmin/installers/NT-2000-XP/Bastion/Manditory.ini

    (It's a smaller version of what I use to secure Windows servers).

    It can disable network shares and other resources that arent needed.

    Thanks

     Scott Birl http://concept.temple.edu/sysadmin/
     Senior Systems Administrator Computer Services Temple University
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