RE: Firewall and DMZ topology

From: Depp, Dennis M. (deppdm_at_ornl.gov)
Date: 06/10/03

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    To: Chris Berry <compjma@hotmail.com>, security-basics@securityfocus.com
    
    

    I'm not sure how a tri-homed firewall can be just as secure as a two
    firewall setup. Consider this:

    Hacker is able to penetrate your firewall and "owns" the box. In a
    tri-homed firewall, they now have direct access to your internal
    network. If this had been a two firewall setup, they would have to
    compromise the second box as well. While this may not be an issue as
    they were already sucessful in owning one firewall, hopefully you have
    your intrusion detection system tuned to a greater degree of sensativity
    in your DMZ. And you will be able to discover this second attempt.

    I do think tri-homed firewalls are a good solution, but they are not as
    secure as a two firewall solution.

    Dennis Depp

    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Chris Berry [mailto:compjma@hotmail.com]
    > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 2:21 PM
    > To: security-basics@securityfocus.com
    >
    > >From: "Des Ward" <des.ward@ntlworld.com>
    > >The second means that all traffic has to traverse your LAN
    > to get to the
    > >'Unprotected' DMZ systems and also could leave your internal
    > LAN open to
    > >attack.
    >
    > My ASCII drawing didn't come out very well it was supposed to
    > represent a
    > tri-homed firewall, which, to the best of my knowledge is
    > just as secure as
    > a two firewall setup.
    >
    > Chris Berry
    > compjma@hotmail.com
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