RE: web monitoring tool

From: Chris Santerre (csanterre@MerchantsOverseas.com)
Date: 04/10/03

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    From: Chris Santerre <csanterre@MerchantsOverseas.com>
    To: "'ikhan@eudoramail.com'" <ikhan@eudoramail.com>, security@nscs.uk.com, security-basics@securityfocus.com
    Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 17:25:05 -0400
    
    

    Dialup may cause you more headaches. The may get malware into your network
    thru there. I would have the exec's bosses literally signoff on a piece of
    paper saying they understand that you can't be held accountable to network
    security if they put a big hole in your configuration.

    I tell my bosses the same. If you don't give me the control, you can't blame
    me when something happens thru a weak link.

    I've also seen execs fired due to surfing habits.

    The ONLY person in a company that can surf without fear is.......Sysadmin ;)

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Imran Khan [mailto:ikhan@eudoramail.com]
    > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 8:00 PM
    > To: security@nscs.uk.com; security-basics@securityfocus.com
    > Subject: Re: web monitoring tool
    >
    >
    >
    > I do agree with you Byrne and many others who sent responses
    > to my query. I cannot agree enough that this is strange
    > one... It is also a deviation from an overall corporate
    > security policy. But executives are executives after all!!!
    >
    > I did relay my concern earlier today and made a
    > recommendation that these executives use a dialup connection
    > if they need to keep their privacy and sanity of others...
    >
    > I have yet to find out the real objective behind this requirement!
    >
    >
    > Thanks every one who responded.
    >
    > Cheers,
    > Imran
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    >
    > On Wed, 9 Apr 2003 17:46:49
    > Byrne Ghavalas wrote:
    > >Hi Imran,
    > >
    > >The goal certainly is a strange one...
    > >
    > >Assuming that all the traffic goes through a firewall, I would assume
    > >that you could assign static IP addresses (or reserved DHCP
    > addresses)
    > >to these manager's machines. Then, you could create a rule on the
    > >firewall to allow the traffic through, but without logging.
    > >
    > >If the firewall does not support the option of no logging,
    > then I would
    > >say that the only other option I can think of is providing
    > the group of
    > >managers with their own Internet connection.
    > >
    > >Also, if the managers use different workstations, this option won't
    > >really
    > >be effective.
    > >
    > >As the traffic has to end up going through the firewall one way or
    > >another,
    > >I can't see any desktop solution solving your problem.
    > >
    > >I must admit that it is rather bizarre that your boss would want to
    > >disable logging for these users. I can understand the your boss is
    > >probably thinking of the privacy for those managers, but
    > logging is not
    > >really supposed to be used to spy on users activities, but rather to
    > >spot anomalies and hopefully help with troubleshooting and forensic
    > >investigations... Hopefully any staff that have access to this log
    > >information are trusted staff members with well-written contracts ;-)
    > >
    > >I would try and convince your boss otherwise, but either
    > way, good luck
    > >in resolving your problem.
    > >
    > >Kind regards
    > >
    > >Byrne Ghavalas
    > >
    > >
    > >----- Original Message -----
    > >From: "Imran Khan" <ikhan@eudoramail.com>
    > >To: <security-basics@securityfocus.com>
    > >Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:11 PM
    > >Subject: Re: web monitoring tool
    > >
    > >
    > >> couldn't find any matter on this one on the security focus
    > website...
    > >>
    > >> I am looking for an application to block net utilization at the
    > >desktop level.
    > >>
    > >> My boss wants to keep a select group's (mostly senior managers)
    > >internet use confidential. She wants this to be done locally (desktop
    > >application), so no logs are generated on the network admin end.
    > >>
    > >> Is this doable?
    > >>
    > >> Thanks for all the responses...
    > >>
    > >> Imran
    > >>
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