Re: Secure WAN Setup (Possibly off topic?)

From: Bennett Todd (bet@rahul.net)
Date: 03/17/03

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    From: Bennett Todd <bet@rahul.net>
    To: Chris Berry <compjma@hotmail.com>
    
    
    

    2003-03-06T13:30:42 Chris Berry:
    > The budget for this setup is probably less than $5000 though thats
    > still a grey area.

    If that budget includes costs for initial setup and first year for
    the WAN connectivity, I think you've run out of choices --- I don't
    think you're going to be using any sort of leased lines, not even
    frac T1, for that kind of price. Maybe, possibly ISDN, if you have
    someone with the special black magic voodoo dolls required to coerce
    your local telco to deliver that service.

    > I need to decide if both organizations should continue sharing a
    > main database, or if the second organization should purchase their
    > own.

    That would depend on details you haven't mentioned --- possible
    security motivations, and performance questions, which would depend
    greatly on application architecture and middleware choices.

    > Leased line or Internet VPN?

    That's easily identified as pure cost -vs- performance tradeoff.
    It's pretty easy to get a leased line that delivers better
    performance than the internet, the internet isn't really all that
    fast; and the internet at large has no service level commitment,
    whereas it's not hard to find leased line arrangements where the
    vendor delivers a hard commitment to certain performance levels
    (although, as always, if it comes to a trip to court, whoever can
    afford the bigger lawyers, wins, so if the connectivity provider is
    big enough that you're confident that they'll still be in business
    in a couple of years, you probably can't afford to enforce any SLA
    commitment --- and they know it).

    If your office can tolerate the typical Service Levels (works well
    enough for small office VPN 99% of the time is not a bad guess) for
    the Internet, or if you can't afford a leased line, then it's an
    easy choice.

    Whether you use a leased line or internet, a VPN would be a good
    idea; that puts entire control over the transit security in your
    hands.

    For this, I'd recommend going with a platform you're comfortable
    with. Establishing and maintaining an interoffice VPN link is a
    little intimidating the first time you try it (although once you get
    it working it should just work and work and work, you can forget
    it's even there); why add extra stress from an unfamiliar platform.

    I've done this before, four offices, somewhat larger than your
    setup; did it with FreeS/WAN on Red Hat Linux, worked like a champ.
    If I were doing the same thing now --- deploying Linux boxes as
    firewall/internet-server/interoffice-vpn combo appliances, I'd do it
    with Red Hat 7.3 using CIPE --- CIPE is specialized for this role,
    whereas IPSec (the protocol implemented by FreeS/WAN) was designed
    to solve every conceivable problem that anybody in the room could
    dream of, even when they were hung over. It shows.

    -Bennett

    
    


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