Re: Survey: Chat and IM

From: Chris Berry (compjma@hotmail.com)
Date: 12/02/02

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    From: "Chris Berry" <compjma@hotmail.com>
    To: security-basics@securityfocus.com
    Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 11:44:43 -0800
    
    

    >From: Jason Yates <jaywhy2@comcast.net>
    >But don't think banning aim is easy as a firewall rule. Let me give >you a
    >personal example. A previous employer of mine, decided >blocking instant
    >messaging was a good idea. They simply blocked, on >the firewall, the
    >default port AIM uses, problem fixed right. The >problem with this
    >solution was the AIM has Auto Connection feature, >that allows aim clients
    >to search every port until it finds one it can >connect to aol servers
    >with. Since we allowed external ftp >connections, AIM would simply use
    >port 21 to connect to the AOL
    >servers. Even if we block every port at the firewall, people can
    >still talk through aim through web proxies. This is when my previous
    > >employer eventually gave up on the policy.
    >Good luck you'll need it. =)

    No problem, you're just trying to block it at the wrong level of the OSI
    model, you need a firewall that has layer 7 (application) filtering. ISA
    server from M$ can do this, probably Checkpoint, PIX, etc. If you're
    running a Linux firewall (iptables for example), you could probably write a
    script which checks the application attempting to access the port, and write
    a rule that rejects AIM connections from internal clients.

    Chris Berry
    compjma@hotmail.com
    Systems Administrator
    JM Associates

    "And here in our server room you can see our Beowolf Cluster of C64's that
    keeps our enterprise on the very cutting edge of technology."

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