Re: Webservers

From: Dan Van Derveer (cyberkni@cyberkni.net)
Date: 05/17/02 

From: "Dan Van Derveer" <cyberkni@cyberkni.net>
To: <f00bar@rogers.com>, <rbuel@solubility.com>
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 16:16:55 -0400

Another plus for Apache is that there are Win32 versions of it. You do not
need any version of *NIX to run it so you can keep your windows gui AND have
Apache.

Dan V.
----- Original Message -----
From: <f00bar@rogers.com>
To: "Robert Buel" <rbuel@solubility.com>
Cc: <security-basics@securityfocus.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 2:37 AM
Subject: Re: Webservers

> Apache can install in about 1 minute (get the binary, run the install
> wizard), is easy to use (get the binary, run the install wizard, your
> choice to tweak or not to tweak), keep up on your patches! That will
> take less time with Apache since you don't have to do it as often.
>
> You can be dumb as a rock about UNIX, but the original poster didn't
> ask about UNIX. If I don't want a lot of overhead to learn, I would
> avoid products that require frequent patching, technet, or arcane
> registry hacks.
>
> "man pages" is the right term for what you meant, but that applies to
> UNIX, which was not what the original poster asked about. That aside,
> even in UNIX, Apache documentation is in http://localhost/manual/ by
> default. But you really want the documentation before you complete
> the configuration, right? That's why it's in htdocs/manual under
> whichever directory tree you unzipped Apache. You want documentation
> even before downloading? Try http://httpd.apache.org/docs/. More
> specifically, see http://httpd.apache.org/docs//wiudows.html for the
> platform in question.
>
> You *might* end up re-compiling something, but probably not. If you
> do have to re-compile something, it wouldn't have been to get Apache
> to run!. Apache runs "out of the box". Get your platform's compiled
> binary from http://httpd.apache.org/dist/httpd/ and find out for
> yourself.
>
> Nice of you to say what you can do with a GUI, but you forgot to name
> the GUIs, like Comanche, Mohawk, Covalent, or any others listed at
> http://gui.apache.org or at your favorite search engine.
>
> Finally, there are a billion books out there on Apache, and Google
> Groups as well. O'Reilly's "Apache: the Definite Guide" is a favorite
> in the community, but there's also "Apache Pocket Reference", "Apache
> for Dummies", "Apache Server: a Beginner's Guide", "Apache Server for
> Windows Little Black Book", why am I listing all this here? See for
> yourself at http://httpd.apache.org/info/apache_books.html or search
> your favorite search engine.
>
> Have you heard any other FUD you would like debunked?
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 06:14:59AM -0500, Robert Buel wrote:
> > Guys-
> >
> > I will be a heretic and vote for IIS--you can install it in about 1
> > minute, easy to use, just like Apache, keep up on your patches! :)
> > As far as the CLI, I have mixed feelings. I'm dumb as a rock about 'NIX,
> > and the biggest problem I have is that you have so much overhead to
> > learn to do the simplest things. Even if you look it up in the
> > "man-pages" (I think that's right) you still might end up re-compiling
> > something to get it to run!
> > At least with the GUI, you run help, and just click the link in help to
> > run the task...also, if you know there's a window that will configure
> > it, you can always hunt around and find it...
> > Finally, there are a billion books out there on windows, and technet as
> > well.
> > But, of course, if you know 'NIX, it is easier to administer for you,
> > and if you know Windows, it would be easier to administer! To me, the
> > only sticking point here is that if you don't know either one, the GUI
> > is faster to learn!
> >
> > Bob
>

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