RE: Detecting WAP's

From: Woody.Hughes@WellsFargo.COM
Date: 01/03/02


From: Woody.Hughes@WellsFargo.COM
To: list@mcclincy.com, security-basics@securityfocus.com
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 13:43:37 -0800 


 
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Actually, you could try to monitor for Request to Send packets and
CTS packets.. Basically, 802.11b use carrier sense multiple access
with collision avoidance. CSMACA if I remember correctly. That's how
wireless networks deal with collisions. Basically, it's a four-way
handshake communication, so what you have is RTS (Request to Send)
with the address set to the intended destination. Then, if the
destination address receives it, it'll send a CTS (Clear to Send)
packet back. Then the original machine that started the handshake
will begin sending the payload, and after it's all finished, the
receiver will send an ACK back...

Now...you could, theoritically, monitor the RTS and CTS packets. But,
I haven't done it. But that would be the one thing to watch out for.
Then again, in order to monitor these packets, you're going to have
to monitor air traffic with something like AirSnort or something like
that...

But you can also startup with the notion that, if someone has added
an AP to the network, and they've enabled WEP with a 128-bit key,
you're now going to have to run a sniffer for 24 hours, depending on
the traffic going through it, in order to break the key, and be able
to start sniffing the actual data. Then again, I'm probably getting a
little too far into this considering that you just want to detect
whether or not you have an AP on the network.

I'm sure there's others on the list that have done this, and have
more experience than I, so maybe they can lend a thought to this
discussion...

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- -----Original Message-----
From: sim [mailto:list@mcclincy.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 2:58 PM
To: security-basics@securityfocus.com
Subject: Detecting WAP's

Hello,
I spent the better part of my morning today tracking down a WAP
within
my building. We basically stumbled onto the signal by blind luck
(testing a WAP enabled laptop) and I proceeded to walk around on a
few
floors searching cubicles until I found it sitting inside someone's
cabinet.

My current network policy is no wireless devices.

My question is how does one proactively monitor for a WAP in a
standard
routed/switched environment. Is there any intelligent way to
accomplish
this? I would be interested in ideas/solutions for LAN's and WAN's.
Is
there something I can look for within each packet or perhaps specific
types of traffic (broadcast?) create by the WAP?

Unfortunately I am not up on 802.11 (yet) and this recent incident
has
me concerned given anyone within range had free access to my network.

Any comments, links, documents, or criticisms are welcome. Please
respond to the group.
CM

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