RE: Raw Sockets in WinXP

From: Jeff Smith (JSmith@Dentrix.com)
Date: 07/27/01


Message-ID: <6D0985BC4DDFD31187C100D0B7473DCC3A5EFE@DTXMAIL>
From: Jeff Smith <JSmith@Dentrix.com>
To: 'David Knaack' <dknaack@rdtech.com>
Subject: RE: Raw Sockets in WinXP 
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 18:01:21 -0600

Well in Windows 2000 Pro depending on how you install it. It will log you
on automatically as Administrator. I personally like the setup of Windows
9x. You can have the full capabilities if you install specail drivers.
That way a malicious peice of code would have to work over time and would be
more easily identified. I can just imagine my mother trying to deal with
administrator right,Power User Rights, and normal user rights.

Jeff Smith
IT Specialist

-----Original Message-----
From: David Knaack [mailto:dknaack@rdtech.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 3:13 PM
To: Jeff Smith
Cc: 'Gregory_DeGennaro@csaa.com'; 'SECURITY-BASICS@securityfocus.com'
Subject: RE: Raw Sockets in WinXP

I'm curious.. Presuming XP is similar to NT in that normal user accounts
are not the same as admin accounts, and it can be configured so that only
admin accounts can do things like install drivers or otherwise modify the
system, could Microsoft set things up so that only accounts specificly
granted the rights to do so could open raw sockets?

This would allow apps that need raw sockets (which are generally few and
far between for regular users) the capability without giving every trojan
the same ability.

Surely the folks at microsoft have thought of this solution. Do they
simply not care? Have they said that they won't do this?

DK

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On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Jeff Smith wrote: > Windows 9x/ME tend to draw a more mom and > pop type of crowd. They dodn't care about TCP stacks, fragmentation, secotr > size, etc. "MOST" windows user what to read their email, surf the web, open > elf bowling, and the latest flash program.



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