RE: Default Admin Account
- From: "Levenglick, Jeff" <JLevenglick@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:39:06 -0500
Who is at fault.... With all of the audit and policy's that have been
created the past few years, I have seen a huge increase in 'legal'
who-is-to blame paper work. It is very common in medium to large
companies to have a sign-off paper trail.
Loading doc guy signs the equipment in. <-- he is 100% responsible at
IT dept signs equipment to them. <they take 100%
IT engineer installs OS/software. He would follow and check off company
standards policy form. < he is 100% responsible at this point.
Forms include fields such as:
Root/admin account password changed.
Current patches applied.
Host locked down per company standards .......ect
IT dept manager or dept head would verify and sign off <--- he is now
Security Dept verify <--- they are now 100%
User assigned access <-- they sign company standards doc. 100% them
User assigned equipment <--- they sign company standards doc. 100% them
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On Behalf Of Paul Slade
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 5:15 PM
To: J.Hart, Elec.Eng.Tech.
Subject: Re: Default Admin Account
I don't much like the Insurance Industry analogy, since I consider them
to be unethical at best.
But to use the analogy you have suggested, Gary broke the law and should
be penalised but I bet he's glad Obama is closing Guantanamo. As for the
insurance company not paying out due to negligence of the owner, the
staff responsible should (have been) sacked and banned from ever gaining
any Government clearance.
J.Hart, Elec.Eng.Tech. wrote:
That's exactly what I am trying to figure out - who is at fault andthe US
who should take ownership. If it were a car and I left the keys in it
and it was stolen, if the perpetrator was caught her would be charged,
but my insurance company would not cover me cause I left the car in an
unsecure state. So both take ownership - is it the same as in this
On 2/4/09, Scott C. Kennedy <sck@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Why does it matter if there were "default administration account on
accessedMilitary machines", it doesn't change the alleged fact that he
"motivatedcomputers & networks without permission.
One's reason for breaking the law doesn't matter whether he was
byby curiosity about evidence of UFOs" or not.
If you broke into people's luggage at the airport, using the default
luggage combination set from the factory because you were motivated
aboutcuriosity about evidence of Bigfoot. Would that make it any less of a
On Mon, February 2, 2009 8:48 am, J.Hart, Elec.Eng.Tech. wrote:
I have been following the Gary McKinnon case for years now.
My interest is in the legal area of penetration testing and the
evolution of cyber law.
What do IT Security experts and pen-testers think about the default
administration account on the US Military machines? You can read
the case here http://freegary.org.uk/
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