RE: GCIA, GSEC, GCIH, CISSP, CEH ???



Before taking up some courses, I will suggest you to go through some
excellent books.

Please read Hacking Exposed BOOKSsssss from Found Stone.

You can begin your journey from these books.

Regards
Sachin

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On Behalf Of Jim Clausing
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 4:29 AM
To: Walter Cuestas
Cc: pen-test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: GCIA, GSEC, GCIH, CISSP, CEH ???

Ed Skoudis who wrote the GCIH "hacker track" has just written a new
pen-test track that will be debuting in March, see
http://www.sans.org/training/description.php?tid=1717

---Jim

On or about Thu, 20 Dec 2007, Walter Cuestas pontificated thusly:

Just to say that every comment about CEH seems to be based on
versiones previous to 5 (some comments seems based on books from EC
Council and 2 others that are so far from current EC Council
material).
Today, CEH is the start point and next steps for people who wants to
demonstrate their knowledge and expertise, thtrough certifications,
are ECSA and finally get LPT (if you need this one).

Since the first mail of this thread, I have reviewed every syllabus,
exam topics, exam and labs demos, training videos and so on.

IMHO, there are just three sources for pen test related certifications
: EC Council, ISECOM and Mile2 (based on CEH).

SANS has a lot of certifications that are good complement for CEH,
OPST, OPSA, CPTS and CPTE, but, I can't find an specific pen test
certification from SANS.

Also, as all of you know, there is no certification neither a set of
exams that really demonstrate the actual knowledge of people.
These certifications are just a complement for a professional career.

BTW, I have reviewed some of the recommended training based on videos
and they seem to be just BackTrack courses.



Regards,


On Dec 19, 2007 11:49 AM, mgk.mailing < mgk.mailing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

wow,

Have been playing with back track for a while but i didnt realise
they
did certificated courses as well. Thanks for the info

mgk

Danux wrote:
If you really wanna start understanding how to PenTest you
should
forget CEH its for script kiddies, you MUST try - From BackTrack
Creators!!! Offensive-Security Courses.

CEH teach you how to use tools but Offensive Security 101 course
teach
you how to think like a hacker developing your own scripts or
exploits, and isc2 gives 40 CPE's for that course. Is excellent,
and
the certification is called OCSP - Offensive Security Certified
Professional (you can get it after passing a 24 hour real
hacking
test).

Check it out:
http://www.offensive-security.com/offsec101.php

Cheers!!!!!


On Dec 17, 2007 12:44 PM, <infolookup@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Good day all,

I know this is not really a tech-pentest question however I
wanted to get some feed back as to what certs/skill set one need to
acquire in order to break into the pentest/information
assurance/computer forensics job market.

I am a about to graduate with my BA in computer system next
semester, and I am tring to get into a security related field, I did
very little vul-testing/pentesting for friends, or on a few work servers
and wifi network.

And that was very interesting, but with so many certs and paths
out there I wanted to know which ones you guys took so I can get an
idea.

Thanks in advance.

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile



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