Re: Re: GCIA, GSEC, GCIH, CISSP, CEH ???

I have taken the CISSP and also the OPST.
Like it was stated before the CISSP really is more of a manager
cert.

The OPST was alot of fun, and so far has been most valuable in
my current career. The test is hands on, you cant memorize your way
through it like some other certs.

I have also taken the CEH, but id rather not go there ;)


Just my 2 cents.

On Dec 19, 2007 1:23 AM, Erin Carroll <amoeba@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I rarely chime in on the certification threads but I'm going to have to
agree with Craig here for the most part. The SANS tests are thorough and
relatively current. However, as another poster pointed out, they used to be
much harder to obtain as in the murky past there was a requirement for the
certs for passing the test *and* publishing a whitepaper for peer review.
Nowadays that's a platinum level cert.

However, the majority of the more well-known certifications aren't exactly
shabby either, it just depends on what you want to get out of your time.
Each have their strengths in terms of subject matter taught or concepts
explored. Focus on the courses/certs that place greater importance in the
"hands-on show me what you've learned" aspect. I haven't had the chance to
try the OSSTMM tests from isecom but I've heard some good things about the
work Pete et al are doing. When it comes down to it, find something that
lights your fire and pursue it. The best training course or certificate in
the universe isn't going to help you if the material bores you out of your
mind and you don't constantly use what you've learned :)



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Subject: Re: Re: GCIA, GSEC, GCIH, CISSP, CEH ???

Hi,
My vote goes with SANS/GIAC. Take the GSE GIAC Platinum level
tests and then you really are being tested.

Having 20 something GIAC certs and most of the major other
ones, I think I am rather unique in being able to compare
these from experiance.

In this, my money goes to the SANS GIAC ones.

Regards,
Dr Craig S Wright (GSE-Compliance)

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