Re: Layer 3 and Firewall
- From: "dubaisans dubai" <dubaisans@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 19:26:20 +0530
2) while a technical solution exists, the best solution to this specific
issue is to address these problems from a personnel perspective
Could you be more specific on the technical solution- because that is
what I am looking for urgently? I am not worried about VLAN hopping or
any other user-inititated attack ? . I am only worried about the
switch admin playing foul.
On 10/5/06, Paul Melson <pmelson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Subject: Layer 3 and Firewall
> Is it a BAD idea to have multiple logical segments of a Firewall connected
to the same physical switch?
It's not a good standard to adhere to because layer-2 VLANs can be hopped in
some cases by attacking the switch, but the level and type of vulnerability
will vary by implementation.
In fact, Check Point is designed so that you can have multiple virtual
interfaces on a single physical port by using 802.1q VLAN tagging.
> The threat I see is if the network switch administrator wants to bypass
Firewall, he can just disconnect
> the Firewall links and make the VLANs Layer 3 and there is no security.
After malicious activites he can
> very well connect the Firewall and revert back to Layer 2.
This is a separate issue. If the switch admin is not in sync with the
firewall admin or cannot be trusted, then 1) yes this is a valid threat and
2) while a technical solution exists, the best solution to this specific
issue is to address these problems from a personnel perspective and either
reassign responsibility for those switches or replace the switch admin with
someone who is trustworthy.
> Is that a valid threat ? Is it High risk ? What controls are possible ?
Are multiple physical switches
> required.?
Probably the thing to do would be to research whether or not a workstation
on either VLAN can hop to the other with the current switch configuration.
You're going to want yersinia, Cain, arptools and another Cisco switch (a
2950 is fine for this) and see if you can flood or spoof your way to the
other VLAN. This is best done during a maintenance window or some time when
it's OK to disrupt the network.
PaulM
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