Re: Licensed Penetration Tester LPT



The story is very interesting, but it describes the reasoning for the licensing, and this email thread subject is very interesting, but no one has discussed the qualifications of becoming a licensed penetration tester ??


Do the person need to have experience with intrusion methods and assessment tools using:
ISS
SATAN
Nessus
Nmap
Snort
Ethereal
Scanrand
other?
Must know the difference between an XMAS scan and a NULL scan ?
Expert in social engineering
Expert in lockpicking (must have placed #2nd in local and national contests) ?
Expert in Security Policy Assessments
Expert at the kernel level for any and all Unix based operating systems ?
Must know what 'BIFF' stands for ?
Expert in PKI
candidate must have a minimum of 7+
years of network administration experience in multiple operating systems to include
Linux, Windows, Solaris, and BSD.
Must be able to dress when required
Must be able to dress themselves
Must be able to shower on a frequent basis
Must be an expert in shining their management on when requested

Did I miss anything ??
-----Original Message-----
From: xelerated <xelerated@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Apr 26, 2006 4:54 PM
To: Phil Frederick <flosofl@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: pen-test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Licensed Penetration Tester LPT

Actually, you have to be a licensed Private Investigator,
not a certified pen tester.

I think it was on the register's site.

On 4/26/06, Phil Frederick <flosofl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This is happening now. Georgia has pending legislation for forensic
examination of information systems. If you aren't licensed as an
Investigator in the state, you can be charged with a felony if the law
passes.

I can't find a link, but I swear I read this a couple days ago.
Anyone have any info, or was I hallucinating :)

On 4/25/06, v b <r0cketgrl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
All funning aside, this was included in a topic of a
BoF at the recent ShmooCon held in DC. The speakers
contended that unless the community becomes
self-policing, there WOULD eventually be government
legislation to license information security
practitioners. Interesting theory. I like the idea
of shipping all unlicensed practitioners to Lincoln.
Could do wonders for that local economy. :-)

Regards.


--- Dogten <dogten@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Mark Teicher wrote:
Why not license security engineers/gurus like they
do social workers, plumbers and doctors.

Then after one gets everyone to comply, partner
with an insurance company to offer liability and
malpractice insurance to the licensed penetration
testers, just in case someone accidently shuts down
a life support system in a hospital as they are
scanning random Class 'C's on the internet or
hijacking root DNS servers in order to play audio
streams.

For those who do not comply, set up Senate
hearings, and send out letters to those who do not
comply, "Are you an unlicensed penetration tester?"
If yes, please list all your friends, neighbors, etc
that may or may not be unlicense penetration
testers. Once they have rounded up all the non
complying penetration testers, escort them to local
train stations, and guide them onto the train, where
they will be taken to re-education camps in Lincoln,
Nebraska. --:)


-----Original Message-----

From: Dogten <dogten@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Apr 20, 2006 10:08 PM
To: Steve Friedl <steve@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: pen-test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Licensed Penetration Tester LPT

Steve Friedl wrote:

If it's not from the government, it's not a real
license.

where does literary license come in? the media
certainly practices it
with impunity.

--
-dogten, C?ISSP
_________________
Fight the power and the power will fight back
Your only as good as the system you hack
If you become a problem you will be replaced
Banned, shut down, erased !




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