Re: e-mail address mining tool?

From: James Eaton-Lee (james.mailing_at_gmail.com)
Date: 11/10/05

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    To: Tomasz Nidecki <tonid@hakin9.org>
    Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:26:48 +0000
    
    

    On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 12:30 +0100, Tomasz Nidecki wrote:
    > The best strategy I guess would be to send mail with empty contents,
    > no headers. This will be treated by most users as "something strange
    > that they've received but they have no idea why and how". However,
    > this is noisy, since if you hit an admin account, the admin will be
    > able to see your IP address and your return address in headers. And,
    > unfortunately, an open proxy will not help much here, since in order
    > for this test to be succesful, you must receive responses, and unless
    > you use an 0wn3d box for that, someone can always easily track you 8].

    This may be entering into a grey zone depending upon your remit and
    sense of personal standards here, but if you're legitimately employed to
    pentest a company's network, you shouldn't have any problems (legally)
    actually sending e-mail which looks like spam - people will, as you
    point out, treat an empty e-mail as 'something strange', but a
    well-crafted spam e-mail will be given far less thought-space, and
    probably immediately binned, even by a network administrator or security
    person.

    You may run into problems in the event that the company actually has
    proper spam filtering, but (in my experience), it isn't too hard to get
    around this.

    > The worst thing that could happen is that the target domain has a
    > default-account strategy and all your mail will end up on one account,
    > probably an admin or management account.

    The 'spam' account enumeration strategy also works quite well simply
    because in the event that this is setup (or the admin reviews his
    bounces from time to time), they'll fall under the radar-of-suspicion
    too.

    It is also worth considering that companies will not necessarily assign
    employees e-mail addresses matching their usernames - there is, in fact,
    quite a strong argument to be made for assigning people usernames
    exclusively for authentication and making their e-mail address entirely
    different. A company might, for instance, give Joe Bloggs the username
    Bloggs01J, and make his e-mail address Joe.Bloggs@example.org - and
    simply don't setup a mailbox or alias for Bloggs01J@example.org (or,
    only accept mail to Bloggs01J internally, and only setup the Joe.Bloggs
    address for your external mail domain).

     - James.

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