Re: e-mail address mining tool?

From: Tomasz Nidecki (tonid_at_hakin9.org)
Date: 11/07/05

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    Sunday, November 6, 2005, 6:36:48 PM, Eyal wrote:

    > I'm not aware of any tool which can test emails against an address file.
    > The most efficient approach to achieve this functionality is to write a
    > simple script which sends the SMTP VRFY command for each entry in an address
    > file.

    > Note that some mail servers do not support this command in order to thwart
    > spammers.

    Hi, everyone.

    Well, to be exact, almost no servers support this command nowadays.
    qmail definitely doesn't. AFAIK, Postfix doesn't either, at least it
    didn't the last time I checked. Neither did Exim. Only Sendmail, in
    its standard config, responds to the VRFY command. I don't know about
    commercial, Windows mailservers, but I found the VRFY command
    supported in very few cases. Therefore I would not base anything on
    its output.

    Also, testing the existence of the user is rarely done on the level of
    mail envelope. Therefore, you cannot expect the mailserver to either
    reply right after sending the RCPT TO command that the user doesn't
    exist or reply in such away after DATA is sent. The only thing you can
    expect, is that if the user address is invalid, you will receive a
    mailer daemon reply to the MAIL FROM address.

    But... This is also not certain. Some mailservers use a default
    account for a given domain, eg. qmail, which I specialise in. If such
    a setup is made, all mail to inexistant users in a given domain is
    directed to a chosen existant account. Therefore you will not receive
    any answer from the mailserver, if a bad e-mail address is given in
    RCPT TO, since mail will be delivered to an existing user.

    Therefore, there is no tool and there will be no such tool. Which is
    good, because if there was, spammers would have a much easier life
    making databases of existing users, so they can sell them later on.

    Cheers,

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    Tomasz Nidecki, Sekr. Redakcji / Managing Editor
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