RE: Scanning Class A network

From: Michael Gargiullo (mgargiullo_at_pvtpt.com)
Date: 10/25/05

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    Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:27:09 -0400
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    Think about it for a minute and do the math involved

    2 trillion ports to check without a reliable method of identifying live
    IP addresses.

    The network you're scanning will have changed significantly in the time
    it takes to complete the scan. The results will not be reliable at all.

    Assuming you could build a cluster to check 100,000 ports per second,
    your still talking running 33 weeks straight. Now in reality, it takes
    longer then 1 second to check a port, especially if it's live.

    Whoever tasked you to do this has no concept.

    You could probably pull it off, if you built a huge cluster, and
    consumed the majority of their bandwidth (don't forget your also limited
    to the amount of outbound traffic your internet connection can handle,
    ie... 384k, 768k, 1.5mb, 45mb, etc...)

    Now if you could get your contract to say you get paid .1 of a penny per
    port... a few months of that and you'd surpass Bill Gates' wealth.

    Sorry mate, unless you spread it out over 6 months or a year, it's not
    something easily done.

    -Mike

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Mike Jones [mailto:sopiaz57@gmail.com]
    Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 2:39 PM
    To: Michael Gargiullo
    Cc: pen-test@securityfocus.com
    Subject: Re: Scanning Class A network

    You may need a bit more than a cluster of 2 386's to scan this many
    ports: (tcp and udp)

    2,198,989,438,980

    Have you looked into the Insane option for nmap using a cluster. (See
    http://openmosix.sourceforge.net/)

    Sounds like an educational institution, why dont you take over a few
    large computer labs and post results.

    tarunthenut@gmail.com wrote:

    >Hello All,
    > Recently I was given a task to carry out a port scan of an entire
    valid
    >Class A range (Dont ask me what the huge pool of valid IP's was for :)
    ).
    >The scan needed to be carried out externally, and not from within the
    >network to identify hosts and ports exposed to the Internet.
    > The problem compounded cause of the following limitations :
    >1. ICMP was not allowed in the network
    >2. The IP range was to be scanned every month for the entire port range
    fro=
    >m
    >1-65535 for TCP & UDP
    > After searching for a suitable scanner which could scan such a large
    range
    >in reasonable time, I could think of only nmap, nessus, superscan and
    ISS.
    > But because of the limitations stated above,all the tools took a huge
    >amount of time (ran into month).
    > I have struggled with options within the tools, tried configurable
    >parameters (host time out, parallelism, RTT etc) and divided into
    smaller
    >class C networks and scanned.but still the scan seems to take ages even
    if
    >it is
    > Any advise would be welcome :)
    >
    >Cheers
    > tarunthenut
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