RE: Passwords with Lan Manager (LM) under Windows

From: Craig Wright (cwright_at_bdosyd.com.au)
Date: 09/22/05

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    Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:05:58 +1000
    To: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor@hammerofgod.com>, <pand0ra.usa@gmail.com>, <pen-test@securityfocus.com>
    
    

    Further to the last post
    There are a number of issues with NTLMv2 and legacy applications such as
    Windows RAS that cause lower levels of authentication

    I still say that Kerberos or IPsec based auth is the best policy in
    windows. LanMan, NTLMv1 or V2 are vulnerable.

    Precomputed tables may have been uncommon 12 months ago - but that was
    then and this is now.

    Cain & Abel will use sorted Rainbow Tables for Cryptanalysis attacks

    Craig

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    From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@hammerofgod.com]
    Sent: 22 September 2005 12:00
    To: Craig Wright; pand0ra.usa@gmail.com; pen-test@securityfocus.com
    Subject: Re: Passwords with Lan Manager (LM) under Windows

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Craig Wright" <cwright@bdosyd.com.au>
    To: <pand0ra.usa@gmail.com>; <pen-test@securityfocus.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:32 PM
    Subject: RE: Passwords with Lan Manager (LM) under Windows

    > Even NTLMv2 will break the hashing into chunks which are able to be
    > individually broken down.

    I'm not sure what you mean... NTLMv2 uses a single 128bit key for the
    hash,
    challenge and response... Or are you referring to the NTLM2 session
    response key (56+56+16)? If so, that is not the same thing as NTLMv2...
    Can
    you elaborate please ?

    t

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