RE: Multiple Spoofed HTTP Requests

From: Payton, Zack (Zack.Payton_at_MWAA.com)
Date: 09/03/05

  • Next message: Kyle Starkey: "RE: Multiple Spoofed HTTP Requests"
    Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 12:21:00 -0400
    To: <kuffya@gmail.com>, <pen-test@securityfocus.com>
    
    

    S,

    You're right in that before the operating system will even hand off the
    socket to the web server process the three way handshake must be
    completed first. If you can't view the return packets that you have no
    idea what the web server chose as its Initial Sequence Number (ISN).
    This is the biggest thing that you need to acquire in order to complete
    that handshake blindly. You can use various tools (scapy, ISNsampler,
    etc) to see if the remote TCP/IP stack uses a flawed algorithm to
    generate that ISN number and if so construct a set of possible ISN's
    that will be selected for the next connection and then create a group of
    packets that contain the possible next ISN. This topic is covered in
    two very important papers related to this topic here:
    http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/newtcp/ He actually graphs the ISN's to 3d
    and is able to generate sets of ISN's that are potentially the next
    selected ISN.

    Good luck,
    Z

    -----Original Message-----
    From: kuffya@gmail.com [mailto:kuffya@gmail.com]
    Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 9:12 AM
    To: pen-test@securityfocus.com
    Subject: Multiple Spoofed HTTP Requests

    Hi list,
    I've used a variety of tools such as Nemesis, Packet Xcalibur & Libnet
    GUI to craft customized packets. Using such tools, you can create
    packets at layers 2 up to 5 possibly spoofing your source IP, port
    numbers or whatever you see fit.
    The question is : Would it be possible to craft a HTTP request(or
    multiple requests) using a spoofed IP address? I'm inclined to consider
    that it's not, the reason being you must have a 3-way handshake
    established before you can start talking application layer protocols
    (such as HTTP). If you use a spoofed IP address, then there's no way of
    doing that. On the other hand, I might be totally wrong, that's why I'm
    asking the list, for the list is wise.
    If, however, it is possible could you please give me some directions on
    how to do it?

    Thanks a lot
    S.

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