RE: CEH training
From: Tim Singletary (Tim_at_active-defense.com)
To: "'Rafael R Echemendia'" <email@example.com>, <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:54:21 -0400
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The Infosec Institute is an authorized EC Council training and
testing center and they DO NOT use the "stock" EC Council courseware.
But to put it simple Greg was asking for opinions and this has turned
into a mass marketing campaign. Looking back through this thread
every person that teaches the CEH has piped in and said "theirs" was
Two things, first Gregory was asking for an honest, unbiased,
reference to the CEH, second these forums were designed to promote
learning and cohesion among fellow pen-testers, not a forum for mass
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From: Ralph Echemendia [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: CEH training
Being the Information Security Testing Product Line Manager and lead
instructor / researcher here at Intense School I of course somewhat
biased, but will try to be honest in my response to this matter.
I always see a great deal of questions regarding our content and the
CEH. I also used to teach the OPST and the real issue surrounding
these "hacking" certifications is industry-wide approval and market
penetration. When it comes to a world-wide cert. that has achieved
this, it is the CEH.
To clarify, Intense School has lead the growth of the CEH in the US
more so than any other training provider with a very high pass rate.
With that said we are also the only authorized testing provider who
does NOT use the official CEH Curriculum. Why you may ask?
The answer is simple, quality and hands-on education. The curriculum
provided by EC-Council for this course (while good for some) is more
like a book than a class and the nature of the hand-on experience is
Therefor we created a course that met our expectations, which is to
exceed our students needs.
Our (current) courseware was developed by Clement Dupuis and John
Nunez. I have to tell you that in my many years and having written,
seen and taught many "Hacking" classes, John and Clement did an great
job, with any curriculum in IT updates are mandatory.
This class certainly prepares you for the CEH, and to be honest many
other similar certification, but is written to do more than just
We are continually working to offer our students the most "Intense"
training experience. In fact we are the ONLY ones to my knowledge who
offer the same quality and hands-on training ONLINE.
If ANY of you have any questions, comments or concerns feel free to
Again Thank YOU and have a GREAT class, whichever you choose.
Ralph Echemendia, OPST, CEH, ECSA
Lead Instructor / ISPLM
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On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:34 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am looking at getting some training to start my official journey
> down = the path as a Security Penetration Tester - and was
> wondering about the = views on taking the Intense School's CEH
> boot Camp. Has anyone on/from the list attended their course and
> have and
> feedback/recommendations? My = background is predominantly Windows,
> but I am fairly functional with Linux. I am more interested in
> online courses right now though only because I am = currently
> involved in some projects that require me to be available for my
> office = over the next couple of months. Any constructive feedback
> is more than =
> Gregory Lemmon, MCP, Security+
> I.T. Manager
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