RE: CEH training

From: Tim Singletary (Tim_at_active-defense.com)
Date: 06/22/05

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    To: "'Drage, Nick'" <nick.drage@eds.com>, <pen-test@securityfocus.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:05:40 -0400

     
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    All,
       The CEH course has many different vendors and "versions" of
    courseware. Some are in serious need of updating, some are designed
    just to have you pass the test, others are quite well written. For
    those that are written well, you have many other factors that get
    thrown into the mix that may help, or hinder you training experience.
    One of the most important is the instructor. His experience and
    knowledge of pentesting can be a added bonus to the course. And lets
    not forget the students themselves. Their experience, drive and
    motivation to learn can shape how an instructor will adjust the class
    flow and materials as to either go more into detail, or move on to
    the next bit of material.

    Evaluate ALL the factors before attending a course of any kind, not
    just CEH.
     

     
    Timothy Singletary
    CISSP,CISM,CEI,CEH,Security+,CTT+,MCP
    315.601.0953 Cell
    Tim@active-defense.com

    - -----Original Message-----
    From: Drage, Nick [mailto:nick.drage@eds.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 4:06 AM
    To: pen-test@securityfocus.com
    Subject: RE: CEH training

    >For the list: I believe it to be a poor (but expensive) course. The
    > material is in places questionable, and at best dated.

    I just wanted to second this comment, the course certainly needs
    work, and a fair percentage of it does need updating. And I feel
    from an ethical hacking / penetration testing point of view quite a
    lot of it should be cut out as well.

    Which is a shame really as the intent of the course and its overall
    aim are excellent, but unfortunately I can only suggest that you look
    elsewhere for an introduction into pentesting.

    - --
    Nick Drage, CEH
    EDS UK Penetration Testing Team

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