RE: Fingerprinting Firewall

From: rzaluski (rzaluski_at_ivolution.ca)
Date: 04/11/05

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    To: "'intel96'" <intel96@bellsouth.net>, <pen-test@securityfocus.com>
    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:33:23 -0400
    
    
    

    Another good way is to search job listings that deal with the company with
    Online Job postings.. You can get a lot of information just from that
    including such things as Firewall makes, models as well as their internal
    architectures / systems.

    Richard Zaluski
    CISO, Security and Infrastructure Services
    iVOLUTION Technologies Incorporated
    905.309.1911
    866.601.4678
    www.ivolution.ca
    rzaluski@ivolution.ca
     
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    -----Original Message-----
    From: intel96 [mailto:intel96@bellsouth.net]
    Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:21 PM
    To: pen-test@securityfocus.com
    Subject: Re: Fingerprinting Firewall

    One of the best way I have found to find out the type of firewall(s)
    used is through the company's HR site, which sometimes has a completing
    listing on firewalls, IDS, protocols, applications, and MUCH more.
    When this does not work I also check firewall mailing list for
    @targetcompany.com to see if anyone has posted.

    intel96

    Byron L. Sonne wrote:

    >
    >> We all know that, we can identify firewall using various methods and
    >> tools like "firewalk".
    >> Is there any method or tool available which will remotely fingerprint
    >> and enumerate rule
    >
    > > base configured on the firewall?
    >
    > Well, more accurately put firewalk does not identify firewalls as much
    > as it enumerates what kind of traffic will be passed as well as
    > allowing you to figure out ACLs in use.
    >
    > Generally speaking I don't think you'll be able to come up with
    > something along the lines of nmap that will allow you to determine
    > what kind of firewall is in place. Certainly not reliably for all
    > firewalls and in all situations; there's just to much variability in
    > how rules can be configured or traffic scrubbed.
    >
    > What I do think is possible is the creation of a tool that will narrow
    > the field down to a group of firewalls.
    >
    > However, I suppose that for peculiar situations, either from grievous
    > design error or peculiar configurations, certain firewalls might stick
    > out like a sore thumb. But my suspicions are that would be rare.
    >

    
    


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