RE: RE: CEH exam & hacking exposed

From: Wayne Wooley (wayne.wooley_at_ps.net)
Date: 11/24/04

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    To: tech.louie@verizon.net, Wayne Wooley <wayne.wooley@ps.net>, Guillaume Lavoix <glavoix@altadis.com>, pen-test@securityfocus.com
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:55:17 -0600

    I depends on the student I guess. But yes in my opinion the course is real
    introductory level, and out dated. In the first day of class one student
    walked out. I made it to the second day before I left. The instructor was
    good, he had written several security books on penetration testing and he
    even recommended against getting the C|EH cert.

    But there was a few in the class that had no security experience what so
    ever, and they did benefit some from the class. I would still recommend
    against it though, especially if they are using their own money to pay for
    it.

    Just to clarify how mine was, the Hacking Exposed books covered more
    information than the CEH class. And they are beginner level as well.

    I have heard good things about the Advanced Ethical Hacking course from
    Infosec Institute, but I have not attended it yet. Here is the link
    http://www.infosecinstitute.com/courses/advanced_ethical_hacking_training.ht
    ml
    The guy that gives the course wrote the Shell coders handbook, which was a
    really good read.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Louie [mailto:tech.louie@verizon.net]
    Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 12:32 PM
    To: Wayne Wooley; Guillaume Lavoix; pen-test@securityfocus.com
    Subject: Re: RE: CEH exam & hacking exposed

    What do you mean it was a waste of time. Don't tell me its the basic on
    networking and computers?
    >
    > From: Wayne Wooley <wayne.wooley@ps.net>
    > Date: 2004/11/22 Mon PM 04:34:50 CST
    > To: tech.louie@verizon.net, Guillaume Lavoix <glavoix@altadis.com>,
    > pen-test@securityfocus.com
    > Subject: RE: CEH exam & hacking exposed
    >
    > It's a waste of money. My company sent me to the CEH course, and I got
    > my money back after spending a day and half in the class.
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Louie [mailto:tech.louie@verizon.net]
    > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 2:35 PM
    > To: Guillaume Lavoix; pen-test@securityfocus.com
    > Subject: Re: CEH exam & hacking exposed
    >
    > Well see also would like to know this question answered... I'm also
    > looking to get my CEH .... plus what other material should we study?
    > I know in fact that if you take the training course in CEH you get pdf
    and other material.
    > Would anyone that took this CEH course would you be able to share the
    > material with use?
    >
    >
    > Louie
    >
    >
    > >
    > > From: Guillaume Lavoix <glavoix@altadis.com>
    > > Date: 2004/11/22 Mon AM 08:55:02 CST
    > > To: pen-test@securityfocus.com
    > > Subject: CEH exam & hacking exposed
    > >
    > > Hello,
    > >
    > > Anybody can tell me if using the hacking exposed book is enough in
    > > order to Take & pass the CEH certification ?
    > >
    > > Thank you,
    > > Guillaume
    > >
    >

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