Re: EC-Counsil

From: Wayne M Burke (wburke_at_secureye.com)
Date: 08/30/04

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    To: "randori ." <randori82@hotmail.com>, <pen-test@securityfocus.com>
    Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 17:37:58 -0500
    
    

    This is what Amazon has as a review:

    "Reviewer: A reader
    The EC-Council calls itself a professional organization, but the horrendous
    grammatical and punctuation errors contained in this book cast serious doubt
    upon that claim. I found myself wondering if English is the first language
    of the author(s). Even the printing is awful, as on every page words are
    interrupted by empty "spa ce." I can't even address the content--I got a
    headache just trying to get the sentences to make sense, and finally had to
    give up. If so little attention is given to the presentation of the facts,
    how much confidence can I have that the facts themselves are correct?"

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    From: "randori ." <randori82@hotmail.com>
    To: <pen-test@securityfocus.com>
    Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 9:40 AM
    Subject: RE: EC-Counsil

    > I know you can by the EC-Coucil CEH book at Barnes and Noble for 75 bucks.
    > It should give you a pretty good understanding of what the course will
    > entail.
    >
    >
    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0972936211/ref=wl_it_dp/103-8029621-6183802?%5Fencoding=UTF8&coliid=I2YT787IAISYN&v=glance&colid=21GEEQ4AL0BVL
    >
    > If you're unsure, give that book a shot and then reasses.
    >
    > -Andre
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > >From: Chris Griffin <cgriffin@dcmindiana.com>
    > >To: pen test <pen-test@securityfocus.com>
    > >Subject: EC-Counsil
    > >Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:13:58 -0500
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    > >List,
    > >
    > >I was looking to see if anyone had any exposure to ec counsil's CEH
    course.
    > >I have heard mixed views on the ec counsil, but nothing about their
    > >courses.
    > >I dont really care about getting a certification, but I wouldnt mind
    > >getting one also.
    > >My main concern is, learning quality stuff that I can put to use in a
    > >security career.
    > >
    > >As im sure everyone feels the same, I Dont want to drop my money on
    > >something that looks good,
    > >but really isnt going to help build knowledge.
    > >
    > >for a quick reference, here is a link to the exam/course I found
    > >
    > >http://www.mile2.com/certified_ethical_hacker_training_v3.html
    > >
    > >and http://www.eccouncil.org/CEH.htm
    > >
    > >Does anyone know if this is quality stuff, or is there something out
    there
    > >better?
    > >(A major factor to me looking at this was, I can find a class local so I
    > >dont have to travel)
    > >
    > >Regards,
    > >Chris
    > >
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