Re: troubles with wireless pentest

From: Jason Ostrom (justiceguy_at_pobox.com)
Date: 06/24/04

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    So I'm assuming you were able to decipher the ASCII/Hex 5 or 13-byte WEP key
    using tools based on the FMS attack. And you said below that you
    try to connect to the network but can't bridge / route through the AP
    - but I didn't see you mention that you used the WEP key to connect to
    the network. Even with the spoofing in place, you won't be able to
    communicate to the AP unless you use the WEP key properly. I'm assuming that
    you were able to determine the WEP key on a network using static WEP.
    Because if the network is using rotating WEP keys with 802.1x, your
    problem is complicated. It may seem obvious, but I didn't see you
    mention this about using the WEP key.

    When you try to route through the AP, what kind of a response do you
    see from the AP?

    Jason

    zcrips xrabbitz> hi everyone,
    zcrips xrabbitz> i have been taking on my
    zcrips xrabbitz> first large and blind wireless pentest and i
    zcrips xrabbitz> have nearly become lost in the jaws
    zcrips xrabbitz> of a wireless network and would
    zcrips xrabbitz> appreciate any help. first i'lll
    zcrips xrabbitz> state what i have so far done and seen

    zcrips xrabbitz> the network was encrypted but with
    zcrips xrabbitz> wep and large traffic so i was able to
    zcrips xrabbitz> bruteforce the key
    zcrips xrabbitz> The network in focus is quite large
    zcrips xrabbitz> with multiple subnets and lots of
    zcrips xrabbitz> “firewalls”

    zcrips xrabbitz> These I did.

    zcrips xrabbitz> Using kismet I sniffed a whole lot
    zcrips xrabbitz> of packets. And decoded them with the
    zcrips xrabbitz> found wep key

    zcrips xrabbitz> Then using my conventional ettercap
    zcrips xrabbitz> and ethereal I looked through the
    zcrips xrabbitz> packets.
    zcrips xrabbitz> i sniffed a lot more with ettereal
    zcrips xrabbitz> and looked through them for a similar mac
    zcrips xrabbitz> address but all packets
    zcrips xrabbitz> had i local (destination) ip and mac address

    zcrips xrabbitz> Now The Problem.

    zcrips xrabbitz> I tried to connect to the net work

    zcrips xrabbitz> I used a nice ip to match one on the network
    zcrips xrabbitz> (8.5) i changed mac addresses to
    zcrips xrabbitz> match the host i was spoofing.

    zcrips xrabbitz> then i tried to route packets to another client
    zcrips xrabbitz> which failed with the network unreachable error
    zcrips xrabbitz> i tried a traceroute to my target
    zcrips xrabbitz> client but it failed too with the same
    zcrips xrabbitz> error

    zcrips xrabbitz> i used ettercap to passively watch
    zcrips xrabbitz> traffic and came up with a comprehensive
    zcrips xrabbitz> list of ip/mac addresses and tried
    zcrips xrabbitz> to spoof most of them but still my
    zcrips xrabbitz> packets didn't get routed
    zcrips xrabbitz> i tried using etterape to watch
    zcrips xrabbitz> traffic flow and come up with a route but i
    zcrips xrabbitz> figure out that nearly all traffic
    zcrips xrabbitz> was internal most hosts were connecting
    zcrips xrabbitz> to each other

    zcrips xrabbitz> HELP:
    zcrips xrabbitz> HOW CAN I ROUTE PACKETS THROUGH
    zcrips xrabbitz> TO OTHER CLIENTS OR BECOME A CLIENT
    zcrips xrabbitz> OR IS THERE A BETTER WAY I COULD DO
    zcrips xrabbitz> THIS WHOLE PENTEST FROM THE BEGINING
    zcrips xrabbitz> PLS ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

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