Lotus Notes .id file pw recover (Was Cached NT/W2k passwords)

From: Romes, Randall J. (Rromes_at_larsonallen.com)
Date: 06/10/04

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    Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 06:43:19 -0500
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    Any one familiar with a means of recovering/cracking the password for lotus
    notes which resides in the .id file?

    Any one know how the password is encrypted/hashed?

    Thanks
    Randy

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Nicolas RUFF (lists) [mailto:ruff.lists@edelweb.fr]
    Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:17 AM
    To: pen-test
    Subject: Re: Cached NT/W2k passwords


    > Has anyone been able to decrypt the hash password from
    > the cached login on NT or W2K ?
    > We're is it located ? In the registry ? If so what's
    > the key....
    > I've been looking around the only thing I can find is
    > how to disable this feature :(

            Hi,

    If you're talking about the CachedLogonsCount registry key, there has been a
    thread 2 weeks ago on FOCUS-MS :

    http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/88/362946/2004-05-21/2004-05-27/0

    Basically, storage is either in LSA Secrets or NL$ registry keys (depending
    on Windows version), and there is no publicly available tool to decrypt the
    hash. The stored value is a salted hash : NTLM( username + NTLM(password)).
    This is hard to crack by brute-force if password > 6 chars.

    Regards,
    - Nicolas RUFF
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