Re: SME risk assessment (Was: Bank Assessment)

From: Jason High (strongcypher_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 04/26/04

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    To: fergus@cobbled.net, pen-test@securityfocus.com
    Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:03:59 -0400
    
    

    I work for a small business and couldn't disagree more. You're assuming
    that small business = small profit = small amount of risk. This is not true
    in many cases. The company that I work for is a multi-million dollar
    company that stores a great deal of very sensitive information, and
    therefore our risk is relatively high.

    You also assume that because a company is small you only need to be equipped
    with a strong understanding of that businesses processes to perform a risk
    assessment. Again, I have to respectfully disagree. The size of a company
    does not necessarily dictate the complexity of a risk assessment. My
    company, again, is a prime example. We have many distinct divisions that
    perform a vast array of functions. Applying a methodology is extremely
    valuable in such situations to insure uniformity and to provide guidance to
    the party(ies) doing the risk assessment.

    While I agree that a strong understanding of the company's business
    processes is extremely valuable, if not absolutely vital, I disagree that it
    is the only issue or that applying a methodology has no value to small
    businesses.

    --
    Jason E. High,RHCT,GSEC,MCP
    >From: fergus <fergus@cobbled.net>
    >To: pen-test@securityfocus.com
    >Subject: Re: SME risk assessment (Was: Bank Assessment)
    >Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 23:02:31 +0100
    >
    >On 23.04-09:57, Amit Deshmukh wrote:
    >[ ... ]
    > >                          ... would anyone know of
    > > a simple risk assessment methodology that could be
    > > employed for small to medium businesses?
    >
    >the problem is not the methodology it is the
    >understanding.  you need to understand the threat
    >and risk on a number of levels to make an
    >effective assessment.
    >
    >that is what you pay for at the end of the day;
    >experience and knowledge.
    >
    >for a simple example, it would be difficult to implement
    >a password policy if you do not understand the
    >relevant issues; that comes down to users,
    >distribution, environment, etc, etc.  all these
    >things are logical and if you have the necessary
    >understanding then you do not need methodology -
    >not for small businesses.
    >
    >it's basically an issue of common sense (once you
    >can ably cover the issues).
    >
    >if you mean a vulnerability assessment or pen-test
    >then you are better (for the small business
    >sector) to simply use tools.  nessus basically; it
    >will be adequate for the target.
    >
    >the problem is that small companies have low value
    >assets and most have very little relating to
    >information/computers.  even the ones that should
    >know better (i.e. accountants and solicitors) are
    >ill able to afford and digest a detailed report.
    >they simply need a solution that puts them a
    >couple of levels higher than the next guy.
    >
    >to summarise - perceived risk is low and therefore
    >over investment in detailing actual risk is
    >difficult, costly and unpopular.
    >
    >--
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