Re: Questions: nmap, nessus unreliability, setting up a packet capture box, using Impacket

From: Don Parker (dparker_at_rigelksecurity.com)
Date: 04/22/04

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    To: Paul Johnston <paul@westpoint.ltd.uk>, pen-test@securityfocus.com
    
    

    Hi Paul, well yes I have found nmap to be buggy at times myself. I have not really used
    nessus all that much so I can't comment on it. What I would suggest you use is either
    hping or nemesis for your packet crafting needs. They both offer a fine level of
    granularity when building a specific packet. Though to make the most of those tools you
    need to have some tcp/ip knowledge. The more indepth the better. As to your question #2
    can you be a bit more verbose as to exactly what it is your trying to do ie: is this a
    flat network, segmented, do you want to get absolutely everything or only certain types
    of packets.......

    Cheers,

    Don

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    On Apr 22, Paul Johnston <paul@westpoint.ltd.uk> wrote:

    Hi,

    1) How reliable have people here found nmap and nessus to be? I have
    encountered (rare) cases of nmap not finding ports, and also of nessus
    not identifying ports during the find_service stage. We hear a lot about
    false positives, but it's much harder to notice false negatives.
    Anything that can be done about this?

    2) I'm looking at setting up a box to capture all traffic on our
    scanning network. Does anyone have thoughts on doing this, based on
    their operational experiences?

    3) Using Core Impact's Impacket library, how can you get it to calculate
    UDP or TCP checksums correctly? No matter what I do they won't come out
    right. It works fine for ICMP. While I'm on the subject, what do people
    use for raw packet libraries? I really like scapy for interactive use,
    but it seems a bit heavyweight for use in scripts.

    Regards,

    Paul

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