Re: Pen testing training / certification

From: Jeantet Fields (jt_at_jeantet.net)
Date: 01/31/04

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    Hey Gideon,

    I took Redvolution's Ethical Hacking and Pen Testing class this past November, in DC. The class wasn't so much an OPST cert course as an all-around Pen-Testing class, which mentioned OSTMM principles where relevant. Kind of like the OPST cert was an afterthought, but definitely added value.

    The class was about 60% labs, and nearly everything they talked about was backed up with live examples out on the net or in a test environment they set up in the class.

    The students were an eclectic mix - foresic specialists, Net engineers, shady DOD characters etc.

    In my opinion, the class is not for novices. You should know IP networking like your birthdate, and have a solid understanding of Net topologies, equipment, and also some win32 and *ix OS if you want to get the most out of the class. Put it to you this way, if you have a CCNA, you'll be ok. In addition to the lead instructor, they had two backup instructors who helped the students one on one with labs. The student / teacher ratio was 2:1.

    I would have been overwhelmed by the amount of information and security tools presented in the class if not for their lead instructor - Taylor. The guy's good. He spent years at Verisign before starting this company. He's probably one of the best instructors I've ever had. In fact, I now teach Firewalls and Net security at NYU, and I've modeled my class and lectures on the way this guy teaches.

    I highly recommend these ReD guys. (they also throw a pretty good party after the last class ;-)

    bounce me an e-mail if you have any more questions.

    ./j

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    >From: "Gideon Rasmussen, CISSP, CFSO, CFSA, SCSA" <gideon@infostruct.net>
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    >I am considering the OPST certification from ReDvolution Technologies.
    >It is based on the Open Source Security Testing Methodology Manual -
    >OSSTMM (http://www.isecom.org/projects/osstmm.shtml).
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    >Has anyone taken their applied penetration testing course
    >(http://www.thinkingred.com/index.php?module=ContentExpress&func=print&ceid=23&redi=training_sub2.jpg)?
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    >I would appreciate hearing about your experiences. Thank you.
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    >Gideon
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    >Gideon T. Rasmussen
    >CISSP, CFSO, CFSA, SCSA
    >Boca Raton, FL
    >gideon@infostruct.net
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