Re: Ethical Hacking Training

From: Don Parker (
Date: 01/19/04

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    Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:05:10 -0500 (EST)
    To: Jimi Thompson <>, "Teicher,  Mark (Mark)" <>

    I fully agree that to defend one *must* know how to attack. I too often hear some
    of my peers say how ,such and such, attack is very script kiddiesh. My usual retort to
    that is "do you know how to do it?". Most network security people I know have no concept
    on how to use an exploit, and invoke it let alone code one. Sending someone on
    an "Ethical Hacking" course can fill most of these gaps in. As I have already stated
    though the student must come to one of these courses with a certain amount of knowledge
    before hand or the money is wasted. Prerequisites for such courses must be clearly laid
    out in the course marketting imho.


    Don Parker, GCIA
    Intrusion Detection Specialist
    Rigel Kent Security & Advisory Services Inc
    ph :613.249.8340

    On Jan 18, Jimi Thompson <> wrote:


    >Why not spend the time in researching how to correct security exploits
    >in enforcing secure coding standards and forcing vendors to clean up
    >their act and making their products work more efficiently and securely.

    Precisely how do you think that the aforementioned "security exploits"
    are discovered?

    My experience has been that unless you know how to hack and how to look
    at your network from the outside like one of the bad guys, that you
    aren't going to have much of an idea of what is vulnerable, what is
    poorly coded, and what does not work efficiently and securely.

    2 cents,




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