Re: How much do you disclose to customers?

From: fergus (fergus_at_cobbled.net)
Date: 12/19/03

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    Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:39:42 +0000
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    joe,

    i would suggest that you agree with management
    which addresses you will probe from but ensure
    that administators do not know.

    they should follow normal response procedure
    against the attack - however, resulting legal
    action would be stopped by management as they
    would know.

    fergus

    On 18.12-13:13, Alfred Huger wrote:
    >
    >
    > I am posting this for a user who is having difficulty posting directly to
    > the list. Please reply to the list.
    >
    > -al
    >
    >
    > To: Joe P <joe_nasdaq@yahoo.com>
    > Cc: pen-test@securityfocus.com
    > Subject: Re: How much do you disclose to customers?
    >
    >
    > On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Joe P wrote:
    >
    > > Hi everyone,
    > >
    > > I have a question on customer disclosure. Is it wise to tell the
    > customer which IP addresses you'll be
    > using before starting pen tests?
    > >
    > > Cons for Telling:
    > > I was thinking that if you did tell them you may get an over zealous,
    > insecure admin that just sets up a
    > filter to block you out to make him/herself look good.
    > >
    > > Pros for Telling:
    > > 1) if you don't tell them your IP address they may think your doing
    > testing when in actuallity it's someone
    > else (ie: a true cracker trying to break in).
    > > 2) Audit trail reasons - if you trip up an IDS while doing testing they
    > can ignore those alarms.
    > >
    > > Also, how do testers handle multiple IP addresses? Is there any benefit
    > to doing it from multiple IP
    > addresses??
    > >
    > > How do testers distribute a test amongst multiple people?
    > >
    > > Lastly, do you keep logs of tests performed just to cover yourself?
    > (Ie: "Our server crashed on Saturday,
    > it must have been something you did!!"")
    > >
    > > thanks ahead of time,
    > > Joe
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    > Alfred Huger
    > Symantec Corp.
    >
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