RE: CEH and Intense School

From: Robert E. Lee (robert_at_dyadsecurity.com)
Date: 11/07/03

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To: "Ed Vazquez" <ed.vazquez@dhha.org>, "pen-test@securityfocus.com" <pen-test@securityfocus.com>

    I was (before today) also unfamiliar with the ESA, but this is what my
    searching found:

    See www.securityassociate.org and www.sainstitute.org.

    The Expert Security Associate (ESA) is the premier advanced
    International Security vendor independent certification which provides
    candidates with the real world skills needed to design, maintain and
    defend complex security environments by learning how to skillfully hack,
    investigate and deploy real world security architectures [more..]

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    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Ed Vazquez [mailto:ed.vazquez@dhha.org]
    > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:38 PM
    > To: pen-test@securityfocus.com
    > Subject: RE: CEH and Intense School
    >
    > I'm curious, from my location the Security Associates Institute times
    > out and can't be reached, so what does ESA stand for? I have
    > searched Google, et. al and have turned up:
    >
    > Educational Staff Associate
    > Exercise Safety Association
    > Ecological Society of America
    > Environmental Site Assessment
    >
    > and a slew of others, but nothing obviously related to data security.
    >
    > I'm not knocking the training since I can't reach the site and
    > actually read/learn about it, but I'm just wondering how many
    > "standard" certifications there are and at what point adding initials
    > to one's name reaches the border of the ridiculous (and yes, I put
    > initials after my name as well...).
    >
    > --
    > Ed Vázquez, GCIA, NSA-IAM
    >
    > The real difficulty, the difficulty which has baffled the sages of all
    > times, is rather this: how can we make our teaching so potent in the
    > emotional life of man, that its influence should withstand the
    > pressure of the elemental psychic forces in the individual?
    > - Albert Einstein
    >
    >
    > --On Thursday, November 06, 2003 18:01 +0000 Tony Brown
    > <tony.brown@cnn.com> wrote:
    >
    > > Hi All
    > >
    > > The contents as mentioned are a bit basic...
    > >
    > > Take a look at DefensiveHacking from Security Associates Institute,
    > > its more real world and UNIX based. The only problem is that these
    > > guys do not teach just this course, rather DefensiveForensics and
    > > DefensiveDeployment too! as a 5 days combo course so you get the
    > > "bug picture". Take a look at their site anyways
    > > (http://sainstitute.org)
    > >
    > > The ESA cert isn't bad either, we sent a few people through it who
    > > like me learnt more than they did before they attended the course!
    > >
    > > my 4 cents...
    > >
    > > Anthony Brown ESA, CISSP
    > > IT Security Manager
    > > CNN - London
    > >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: Andrew Turner [mailto:andrewhturner@yahoo.com]
    > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:47 PM
    > > To: pen-test@securityfocus.com
    > > Subject: CEH and Intense School
    > >
    > >
    > > Greetings,
    > >
    > > I am considering taking the Ethical Hacking course
    > > tought by Intense School. Has anyone had experience
    > > with this training program? If so, I would be very
    > > interested in hearing your comments on the program.
    > >
    > > Thanks in Advance!
    > >
    > > --
    > > Andrew H. Turner, CISSP
    > >
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