Re: Infrared Vulns on laptops

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Date: 08/14/03

  • Next message: Joseph Mathews: "RE: Infrared Vulns on laptops"
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    This is pure speculation, so ...

    As far as IR range goes, I expect that it could be
    dramatically extended by using a good light-gathering
    device on the receiving end. If the laptop/device were
    close to something that reflects IR, maybe the port
    wouldn't have to be directly aimed at the receiver. If
    you want to have two-way communication, an IR laser is
    cheap. Getting the target PC to cooperate would
    probably be the same order of difficulty as getting
    other executable code into a system. Of course, not
    every laptop spends most of its hours in the same
    position on a desk, and not every executive uses the
    same laptop in the same airport waiting room
    frequently, but...

    Careful people looking for possible information leaks
    check for IR sources among other wireless possibilities.

    cmp

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    >Larry,
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    >There isn't much out there about IrDA vulnerabilities
    and hacking, other
    >than hacking Furbies, or getting your laptop to
    programme your video.
    >
    >The IR protocol is unicast, so it won't talk to
    another IrDA device once a
    >connection has been made to a particular device. It
    will drop and restart
    >if a connection between one device is lost and another
    created.
    >
    >Under Windows (including CE) the IrDA connection can
    be configured so that
    >the user has to accept an incoming data transfer.
    I've had patchy luck
    >getting phones and PDA's to talk under Linux, so
    someone better versed
    >should comment on that, but I seem to remember it was
    much the same.
    >
    >Unless the user has actually enabled and is running
    the IrDA interface then
    >it isn't possible to send anything to a user. Good
    security practice is

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