RE: Netstumbling

From: Andrew Ruef (jabberwocky@mediasoft.net)
Date: 03/05/03

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    From: "Andrew Ruef" <jabberwocky@mediasoft.net>
To: <pen-test@securityfocus.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 17:44:13 -0500

    I believe the official FBI stance is, connecting to an open network is
    not a crime.

    A. Ruef

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Nick Jacobsen [mailto:nick@ethicsdesign.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:12 PM
    To: stonewall; pen-test@securityfocus.com
    Subject: Re: Netstumbling

    Just from my expirience, I have never had any problems, and none of my
    friends have reported any problems either. I will walk around downtown
    with
    my laptop open, and an external antenna on my back (looks funky, and I
    get
    some odd stares, but it works), and the most I have ever had happen is a
    cop
    ask me what I was doing... I told hime I was using my laptop to do a
    wireless security assesment... he just sort of looked at me oddly and
    walked off... probably had no idea what I was talking about... I've
    done
    this in Portland, Roseburg, Salem, Eugene (all in Oregon), as well as
    New
    Orleans and Chicago. Most of the time, the cops have no idea what you
    are
    talking about...

    Anyway, my 2 cents,

    Nick Jacobsen
    Ethics Design
    nick@ethicsdesign.com

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "stonewall" <stonewall@cavtel.net>
    To: <pen-test@securityfocus.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 6:14 AM
    Subject: Netstumbling

    > HI, I need some advice.
    >
    > I am interested in the reaction that list members have gotten from
    various
    > government agencies while netstumbling. Is there any clear guidance
    on
    the
    > legality of 'stumbling? I am talking here about just 'stumbling, not
    set
    to
    > auto reconfigure the card, just assessment and locating WAPs.
    >
    > You cannot be in the security business without being able to assess
    threats.
    > In this business, paranoia is not paranoia, it is due diligence. I
    believe
    > that anyone serious about security must be able to assess wireless
    zones,
    > overlapping areas, buildings with multiple WAPs, etc. But have you
    been
    > threatened by LE personnel in the process?
    >
    > Thanks in advance for your info.
    >
    > stonewall
    >
    >
    >
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