Re: BO2k Port?

From: H D Moore (hdm@secureaustin.com)
Date: 09/28/01


Message-ID: <20010928172238.4597.qmail@securityfocus.com>
From: H D Moore <hdm@secureaustin.com>
To: PM Systems - Rick Woehler <RWoehler@PMSysCorp.com>, pen-test@securityfocus.com
Subject: Re: BO2k Port?
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 12:22:35 -0500


And of course I forget the attachment...

On Friday 28 September 2001 12:21 pm, H D Moore wrote:
> On Friday 28 September 2001 08:52 am, PM Systems - Rick Woehler wrote:
> > I haven't been able to connect with my BO2k consolde and am beginning
> > to wonder if this is a false positive. I've seen Raptor Firewalls report
> > open ports when they in fact are not and am wondering if anyone has
> > advice on these high ports.
> >
> > # Nmap (V. nmap) scan initiated 2.53 as: nmap -sU -oN test.txt
> > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> > Interesting ports on (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx):
> > (The 1436 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
> > Port State Service
> > 19/udp open chargen
>
> [ snip ]
>
> > 31335/udp open Trinoo_Register
> > 31337/udp open BackOrifice
>
> Those are more than likely false positives, the reason nmap reports these
> as open is because of how udp scanning works:
>
> Nmap sends a 0 byte udp packet.
> If Nmap receives a icmp port unreachable, the port is closed.
> If Nmap gets no response (or its filtered) the port is open.
>
> So, to see if the port is _really_ open, try the following:
>
> # nmap -sU -p 31330-31340
>
> If all 10 ports come back open, then you cant trust the results at all.
> The only real workaround is send application level queries to each udp
> service to determine if its alive, obviously that doesn't work for services
> like bo2k or snmp if you dont have the proper password/community string. I
> attached a script I wrote which does a DNS query on udp port 53 and looks
> for a response, due to the type of query (ptr for its own ip) almost every
> DNS server will respond to it.
>
> btw, its now on the tools page of my site:
> http://www.digitaloffense.net/index.html?section=TOOLS

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H D Moore
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