RE: DoS "Probing" on one of our hosts
From: Cook, Christopher S. (Christopher.Cook_at_honeywell-tsi.com)
Date: 06/30/03
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To: "'chris@de-punkt.de'" <chris@de-punkt.de>, incidents@securityfocus.com Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 12:12:26 -0400
To me, that pattern sounds a lot more like someone's hacked a server and set up a warez site. Granted, we don't know anything definitive, but if the high volume periods generally happen in the middle of the night, I wouldn't be surprised.
See if you can put a sniffer on the outbound connection (Sniffer is my commercial favorite) to find the endpoints. There are lots of reasons your IDS isn't raising alarms: the system that was hacked was already an FTP server, or if your IDS isn't
monitoring common protocols from servers, or the IDS system doesn't see the traffic going to the hacked system, et al.
Chris Cook
Honeywell TSI
These are my opinions, not those of Honeywell.
-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Kunz [mailto:chrislist@de-punkt.de]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 3:37 AM
To: incidents@securityfocus.com
Harlan Carvey wrote:
> I'm very interested to see what information you can
> provide on this event, to show that it was, in fact, a
> DoS attack.
Uhm, I'm quite positive that 97.8 mBit coming in through our uplink are
a pretty good indicator for an attack.
And by "probing" I meant that maybe the attacker only tried to determine
our maximum bandwidth for a larger-scale attack, since the DoSes stopped
fairly soon without any outer influence.
--ck
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