RE: ISA Server or Firewall Appliance?

From: Marcos Marrero (mmarrero_at_LLOYDSTSB-USA.com)
Date: 11/15/05

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    To: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@tacteam.net>, <focus-ms@securityfocus.com>
    
    

    Thomas,

    Consider it like this.

    You are setting up your network for your newly established company. You
    have all brand new equipment (servers, desktops, routers, switches,
    etc... a dream come true really!!)

    You are the only IT guy and are in charge of setting everything up and
    making sure it works.

    Taking this scenario into account and previously sitting down and
    identifying everything that is going to be going in and out of your
    network, I really think that ISA would be the better choice here. This
    is a network where there will be very little info and services going in
    our out and remote access will be kept to a minimum.

    I have networks like the one above with an enterprise firewall sitting
    in front of everything... IMO I thinks it is over kill.

    Regards
    Marcos Marrero

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@tacteam.net]
    Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 4:06 PM
    To: Marcos Marrero; focus-ms@securityfocus.com
    Subject: RE: ISA Server or Firewall Appliance?

    Actually, I'd prefer an ISA firewall appliance, esp. once with the
    Britestream SSL offload cards. Its pre-hardened based on the vendor's
    specs, and provides the security and flexibility of ISA firewalls. Check
    Point servers are good too, but you'll pay a big premium. Juniper? You
    can pass exploits through those boxes at wicked speeds, no doubt about
    it.

    But re-read what David LeBlanc has to say about system hardening, and
    think about the reasons for "hardening" the ISA firewall and what it is
    you're trying to accomplish. I've found it requires little if any
    hardening from "a thinking man's point of view", and that most hardening
    that's done is for appearances sake only.

    The real key to answering this question is:
    What are your requirements?
    What are you trying to protect?
    What level of access control to you require?
    What level of detailed reporting do you require?
    What throughput to you require?

    HTH,
    Tom

    Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
    Site: www.isaserver.org
    Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
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    MVP -- ISA Firewalls
    **Who is John Galt?**

     

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Marcos Marrero [mailto:mmarrero@LLOYDSTSB-USA.com]
    > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 10:58 AM
    > To: focus-ms@securityfocus.com
    > Subject: ISA Server or Firewall Appliance?
    >
    >
    > Hello to all,
    >
    > I have a question to see what everyone out there thinks. Here
    > it goes...
    >
    > Is it better to have a firewall appliance (Checkpoint,
    > Juniper, etc) or
    > is ISA server enough to use as a firewall (along with all of the other
    > options it provides)?
    >
    > Of course the ISA server would sit facing the internet, like
    > a firewall
    > would and it would have to sit on a hardened machine.
    >
    > Just want to know what everyone out there thinks about this
    > configuration or idea?
    >
    > Regards
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