Re: RESPONSE: Users "bypassing" Group Policy restrictions

From: Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers (bugtraq_at_planetcobalt.net)
Date: 01/29/05

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    Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 23:49:21 +0100
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    On 2005-01-28 Miroslaw Slawek Chorazy wrote:
    >> 'fraid not. Local administrators can take ownership of any file, and
    >> any registry key. The owner of a file/reg key can change its
    >> permissions. Always. No matter what.
    >
    > But because the scenario Edward describes is an Active Directory
    > Domain then he has additional tools at his disposal...
    >
    > There exists a policy setting in \Computer Configuration\Windows
    > Settings\Security Settings\Local Policies\User Rights Assignment\ This
    > security setting determines which users can take ownership of any
    > securable object in the system, including Active Directory objects,
    > files and folders, printers, registry keys, processes, and threads.
    >
    > What if he removes local 'Administrators' group from having this right
    > and adds 'Domain Administrators' group (of which he is hopefully a
    > member) and then if he further applies permissions to the registry key
    > which applies to the above policy and removes the local administrator
    > and substitutes it for "domain administrators" then in theory it
    > should work Ricardo is suggesting?

    AFAICS they could easily re-assign the "Take Ownership" privilege to
    themselves, so this doesn't look like a solution to me. Plus, the
    purpose of local administrators is the administration of the local
    machine. That's why they *have* the privilege to take the ownership of
    each file/object. Instead of revoking the privilege you should actually
    ask yourself whether the members of the local administrators group
    really need to be members of that group.

    Regards
    Ansgar Wiechers

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