RE: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available

From: Stegman, William (Bill.Stegman_at_transcore.com)
Date: 01/12/05

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To: "Focus-MS" <focus-ms@securityfocus.com>

    Does anyone expect this to be a "free" service bundled with a service pack or future releases of MS operating systems, or will it be a separate piece of software available for purchase? I don't see much info on the website, other than the beta version is free, and a few searches lead me to believe MS is intentionally being vague about the cost...

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Eric McCarty [mailto:eric@piteduncan.com]
    Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 4:29 PM
    To: Shaffer, Bruce; Focus-MS
    Subject: RE: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available

    Expired Software <> Unlicensed software

    I believe that the software will cease to function as opposed to
    violating any sort of licensing agreements.

    I believe that running the Intelligent scan is far different from
    running the full scan, which may be why there are different results with
    different spyware products. So far I have had great luck with
    Microsoft's Anti-spyware, but have found that spybot and adaware neither
    find even 90% of the spyware and are often useless against the newest
    spyware.

    We pay an arm and a leg for products like Norton A/V Corporate Edition,
    I venture to guess we would do the Same with Microsoft Anti-Spam
    Corporate Edition.

    Eric

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Shaffer, Bruce [mailto:BShaffer@PRAC.com]
    Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 12:50 PM
    To: 'Focus-MS'
    Subject: RE: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available

    I just installed the MS Antispyware tool with the default install,
    updated the signatures then ran the default scan. It came back with no
    spyware detected.

    I then brought up Spybot, updated his files and ran the default scan.
    He returned 5 registry keys, a pile of cookies and a browser hijack.
    Cleaned this up.

    Next I ran Adaware, updated files, etc. Adaware came back with 10 more
    cookies.

    The point I am trying to make here is that there is so much spyware out
    there and antispyware is so young and doesn't enjoy the information
    sharing between researchers that AV does, nothing will catch even 50% of
    known spyware.

    I read a review in the last couple of months that stated that there were
    approximately 29.5 million pieces of known spyware and of those, 5
    million were programs. The number may be a little high, but if you
    think about it, there are about 100,000 known viruses and worms authored
    in the past 19 years and none of these were commissioned by marketers.
    People get paid to write spyware so the 8 figure total is not
    unrealistic.

    If we had a program that could incorporate all of these signatures,
    would we be able to do daily or weekly scans? How about monthly?

    One thing I haven't seen anyone comment on yet is: does this drop its
    own spyware? Most of the $$ products do, Ad-aware and Spybot do not.

    For home machines I overlap my favorite two products, for enterprise, I
    use Spybot only. I would be leery of installing any "free for a time"
    software on the enterprise. What's going to happen when you don't get
    budget to purchase this next July? More $$ for the MS lawyers or a
    scramble for your techs to uninstall before someone notices you're using
    unlicensed software?

    Just my opinion.

    D. Bruce Shaffer, CISSP
    Information Security Engineer
    PRAC.COM

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Yuen, Steven [mailto:Steven.Yuen@ubs.com]
    Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:59 AM
    To: 'John Fleming'; 'Rod Serbanescu'; 'Glenn S.'; 'Danny'; 'Focus-MS'
    Subject: RE: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available

    I have been using it as well and it is more thorough than some of the
    others I've used. So far, it is stable.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: John Fleming [mailto:jfleming@creativeventuresofboca.com]
    Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 4:39 PM
    To: 'Rod Serbanescu'; 'Glenn S.'; 'Danny'; 'Focus-MS'
    Subject: RE: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available

    I only installed it on one machine so far and have had no problems.
    Seems to
    work very well. A little slow it seems when removing spy ware, but I
    believe
    it may be more thorough plus it is a Beta version. I'm sure there will
    be
    many improvements. An MSI package would be nice to rollout using Group
    Policy.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rod Serbanescu [mailto:rods@loanstillpayday.com]
    Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:00 PM
    To: 'Glenn S.'; 'Danny'; 'Focus-MS'
    Subject: RE: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available

    I've allready installed it on 4 machines and it works great, it beats
    all
    the other ones that are out there put together. The only problem with it
    atm
    is that it is still beta and sometimes it freezes for a bit, other then
    that
    it works great and has options that many other apps are lacking. This is
    a
    welcome change.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Glenn S. [mailto:glenn@secureinformation.net]
    Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 3:27 PM
    To: Danny; Focus-MS
    Subject: Re: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available

    Microsoft recently acquired Anti-spyware company Giant and is now making
    their Anti-spyware tool available for free download if anyone is
    interested:

    http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Danny" <nocmonkey@gmail.com>
    To: "Focus-MS" <focus-ms@securityfocus.com>
    Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:38 AM
    Subject: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available

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