RE: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available

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To: 'Focus-MS' <focus-ms@securityfocus.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:50:20 -0500

I just installed the MS Antispyware tool with the default install, updated
the signatures then ran the default scan. It came back with no spyware
detected.

I then brought up Spybot, updated his files and ran the default scan. He
returned 5 registry keys, a pile of cookies and a browser hijack. Cleaned
this up.

Next I ran Adaware, updated files, etc. Adaware came back with 10 more
cookies.

The point I am trying to make here is that there is so much spyware out
there and antispyware is so young and doesn't enjoy the information sharing
between researchers that AV does, nothing will catch even 50% of known
spyware.

I read a review in the last couple of months that stated that there were
approximately 29.5 million pieces of known spyware and of those, 5 million
were programs. The number may be a little high, but if you think about it,
there are about 100,000 known viruses and worms authored in the past 19
years and none of these were commissioned by marketers. People get paid to
write spyware so the 8 figure total is not unrealistic.

If we had a program that could incorporate all of these signatures, would we
be able to do daily or weekly scans? How about monthly?

One thing I haven't seen anyone comment on yet is: does this drop its own
spyware? Most of the $$ products do, Ad-aware and Spybot do not.

For home machines I overlap my favorite two products, for enterprise, I use
Spybot only. I would be leery of installing any "free for a time" software
on the enterprise. What's going to happen when you don't get budget to
purchase this next July? More $$ for the MS lawyers or a scramble for your
techs to uninstall before someone notices you're using unlicensed software?

Just my opinion.

D. Bruce Shaffer, CISSP
Information Security Engineer
PRAC.COM

-----Original Message-----
From: Yuen, Steven [mailto:Steven.Yuen@ubs.com]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:59 AM
To: 'John Fleming'; 'Rod Serbanescu'; 'Glenn S.'; 'Danny'; 'Focus-MS'
Subject: RE: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available

I have been using it as well and it is more thorough than some of the others
I've used. So far, it is stable.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Fleming [mailto:jfleming@creativeventuresofboca.com]
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 4:39 PM
To: 'Rod Serbanescu'; 'Glenn S.'; 'Danny'; 'Focus-MS'
Subject: RE: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available

I only installed it on one machine so far and have had no problems. Seems to
work very well. A little slow it seems when removing spy ware, but I believe
it may be more thorough plus it is a Beta version. I'm sure there will be
many improvements. An MSI package would be nice to rollout using Group
Policy.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Serbanescu [mailto:rods@loanstillpayday.com]
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:00 PM
To: 'Glenn S.'; 'Danny'; 'Focus-MS'
Subject: RE: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available

I've allready installed it on 4 machines and it works great, it beats all
the other ones that are out there put together. The only problem with it atm
is that it is still beta and sometimes it freezes for a bit, other then that
it works great and has options that many other apps are lacking. This is a
welcome change.

-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn S. [mailto:glenn@secureinformation.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 3:27 PM
To: Danny; Focus-MS
Subject: Re: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available

Microsoft recently acquired Anti-spyware company Giant and is now making
their Anti-spyware tool available for free download if anyone is interested:

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx

----- Original Message -----
From: "Danny" <nocmonkey@gmail.com>
To: "Focus-MS" <focus-ms@securityfocus.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:38 AM
Subject: Anti-spyware Beta from Microsoft available

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