RE: Microsoft rights management server alternatives

From: Thompson, Tichard (
Date: 11/22/04

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    Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:58:04 -0500
    To: "Jimi Thompson" <>

    I agree... the biggest failure in the technology is the remaining
    weekness to Ananlog attacks such as taking a picture of protected
    content on a screen. I cant even say that I personally totaly buy into
    this technology but for some groups in the company I work for, this
    technology is ideal and satisifies a regulatory need that exists. No one
    technology is the holy grail for securing your environment. What we have
    are many small pieces that you put together to come up the most complete
    solution possible.
        As far as copy in paste to a document, If you choose the right
    technique for rights managed content, you can also protect content that
    is copied from one doc to another while also keeping a running audit
    trail of how the document is being accessed no matter where it goes. I
    believe this technology has a long way to go but we are seeing a fine

    Just as a

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jimi Thompson []
    Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 1:23 AM
    To: Thompson, Tichard
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    Subject: Re: Microsoft rights management server alternativeses.

    The DRM stuff is all a seriously bad joke that's been played out on
    management. You still have to TRUST the people that work there. If I
    can display it on my screen, no matter what else fails I can get my
    nifty camera and take a photograph of the document or whatever I'm not
    supposed to be able to pass around. If I can play it through my
    speakers or headphones, I can whip out my trusty old casette recorder
    and tape it. Where's your DRM then? Neither of these are
    particularly high-tech approaches and are well within the reach of the
    average schmoe.

    Further more, if I have sufficient rights to open a document, let say
    that I copy and paste from the contents of your DRM document into a
    new document. How do you track the rights to that? It's better to
    be loyal to your employees so that they are loyal to the company and
    don't want to sell you out to begin with. More software isn't going
    to fix that.

    2 cents,


    On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 14:06:11 -0500, Thompson, Tichard
    <> wrote:
    > Checkout LiquidMachines which is a stand alone product and also
    > works with an existing RMS infrastructure. Also look at Authentica.
    > Their solutions are a lot better as well as being a lot more
    > T.J CISSP
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Lists []
    > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 7:30 PM
    > To: <> <>
    > Subject: Microsoft rights management server alternatives
    > Hi everyone,
    > I am looking into rolling out a solution like microsoft rights server
    > that can encrypt files and assign decrypt rights. I know of Hibun in
    > Japan as well by Hitachi and was wondering if anyone was using
    > else.
    > Regards,
    > sakaba
    > ---
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