RE: XP-SP2 "Feature"

From: Free, Bob (RWF4_at_pge.com)
Date: 09/10/04

  • Next message: Sarbjit Singh Gill: "RE: XP-SP2 "Feature""
    Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:10:09 -0700
    To: <focus-ms@securityfocus.com>
    
    

    >What about Group Policy? Does anyone know if XP/2K Pro require ICMP to

    >be open across firewalls?

    This behavior was often discussed when many folks blocked ICMP as a
    response to Nachi and had issues with profiles and GPO's. A couple of
    relevent articles are below which don't explicitly mention XP but all
    evidence I saw indicated XP was afected as well.

    816045 - A Fast Link May Be Detected as a Slow Link Because of Network
    ICMP Policies: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=816045

    227260 - How a Slow Link Is Detected for Processing User Profiles and
    Group Policy:
    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;227260

    >what work-arounds are necessary in order for Group Policy (both
    Computer and User) to work
    >across firewalls.

    Darren Mar-Elia @ gpoguy.com offers the following solution-

    The bottom line here is that you have to disable slow link detection on
    the computer--which can be set via policy within Computer
    Configuration|Administrative Templates|System|Group Policy|Group Policy
    Slow Link Detection. Doing so can be tricky however, if you've already
    disabled ICMP because no GPO processing happens, thus you get a
    chicken-and-egg effect where you can't disable slow link through policy
    because policy processing is not occurring. The answer to this is to set
    the policy directly within the registry using the following registry
    values:

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\System]
    "GroupPolicyMinTransferRate"=dword:00000000

    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\System]
    "GroupPolicyMinTransferRate"=dword:00000000

    Note that you have to set this policy to 0 for both the computer and the
    user who will be logging into that system in order to fix this issue
    completely. Note that by disabling slow link detection for that computer
    and user however, you are effectively turning off the ability for GPO
    processing to discern whether its connection to a DC is slow or not. The
    link speed will always be considered fast. This may or may not be a good
    thing, depending upon how slow the link really is.

    hth

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Zath, Linda A [mailto:linda.a.zath@intel.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 2:52 PM
    To: Ian Miller
    Cc: focus-ms@securityfocus.com
    Subject: RE: XP-SP2 "Feature"

    We experienced problems with GPO's failing when ICMP was blocked at the
    FW. When ICMP traffic was allowed the GPO's worked fine. Annoying
    problem that took awhile to track down as on some settings in the GPO's
    failed.

    Linda Zath

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ian Miller [mailto:miller@ucalgary.ca]
    Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 8:32 AM
    Cc: focus-ms@securityfocus.com
    Subject: Re: XP-SP2 "Feature"

    What about Group Policy? Does anyone know if XP/2K Pro require ICMP to
    be open across firewalls? The reason I ask this is we have been told
    (but unable to confirm) by other sources that ICMP must be available in
    order for Group Policy to work. If ICMP is not required (could you
    please indicate in your response) what work-arounds are necessary in
    order for Group Policy (both Computer and User) to work across
    firewalls.

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