RE: DHCP through RAS

From: Wronski, Michael C (MED) (Michael.Wronski_at_med.ge.com)
Date: 03/02/04

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    To: "'Jason Humes'" <jhumes@acs.on.ca>, "'focus-ms@securityfocus.com'" <focus-ms@securityfocus.com>
    Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 11:20:37 -0600 
    
    

    Its fairly complex to detect someone grabbing an IP from your DHCP
    server and then using NAT to share that connection. There have been a
    few research papers on the topic:

    http://www.sflow.org/detectNAT/ - Detecting NAT
    http://www.research.att.com/~smb/papers/fnat.pdf - Counting NAT hosts

    The techniques look sound, but I am not aware of any tool that would
    combine them into a method of then blocking that host from routing on
    your network.

    You can resolve some of your DHCP problems by configuring your DHCP
    server to not assing addresses to clients that send the option Default
    User Class set to block RAS or to assign non routable addresses to
    clients that don't contain an ID that you specify. It will not help you
    with NATing access devices that may be requesting IPs. Some of these may
    not support the MS class option and you could block those, but not all.

    Basically you can slow some people down, but you wont be able to block
    this entirely unless you use VPN technology for connecting to your
    service that would block the sharing and routing of the VPN connection.
    I believe the Cisco VPN client effectively does this and I am sure
    others are capable. It would also eliminate any NON-PC device from
    connecting as they wont have the client SW installed.

    -M

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jason Humes [mailto:jhumes@acs.on.ca]
    Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 3:31 PM
    To: 'focus-ms@securityfocus.com'
    Subject: DHCP through RAS

    Hi
    We provide access-controlled internet in a public area through the use
    of an
    access-controller. Usernames for authentication to the AC are given out
    manually and IPs are distributed via W2K DHCP Server. The problem is
    that
    we don't want users installing access-points or other access mechanisms
    onto
    the network and doing some second level sharing of the internet feed. I
    mean, if I look at the DHCP server leases, most of the leases are plain
    old
    PCs, but there are a couple that show up as RAS under the "unique ID"
    field
    and the "Name" field matches that of another...this means that the
    person
    showing up as RAS is connecting THROUGH the matched Name...correct? Is
    there any way in W2K DHCP to stop this? The access-controller works by
    source IP address, and the IP would be the same for both PCs and
    therefore
    allowed through to the internet. Thanks

    Jason D. Humes
     

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