Re: restrict software installation

From: Luv 2 Hack (love2hack@hotmail.com)
Date: 05/29/02


From: "Luv 2 Hack" <love2hack@hotmail.com>
To: "Donald Voss" <voss@albany.edu>, <focus-ms@securityfocus.com>, <Gu1tarb0y@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 01:31:40 -0700

This should help. Take a look:

Fortres 101 is an innovative security agent that resides invisibly between
the computer and the user. A computer sentinel, Fortres 101 monitors each
action the user makes and determines if that action is legal or not. As a
systems administrator for one or one thousand machines, software security is
a must. Protecting not only the software and hardware applications, Fortres
101 also protects time and money by preventing damage to files and programs.
You will no longer waste time re-imaging, ghosting, or reinstalling software
because of accidental or mischievous deletions and errors. Fortres 101
offers you the ability to restrict/block local hard drives and removable
floppy disk drives as well as any local file, folder, or application.
Install Fortres 101 on your Windows 95/98/Me and Windows NT/2000/XP
computers. For users of Windows 3.x, Fortres 101 v2.51d is available.

www.fortres.com

good luck.

Itsme
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald Voss" <voss@albany.edu>
To: <focus-ms@securityfocus.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: restrict software installation

> There are some win based products that will give you desktop / system
> config control. The trick is you need administrative support .. from
> the top down. Some are fairly simple .. the user gets the desktop,
> can do what ever they want, have a open dir[s] to drop files and are
> very surprised when one reboots the machine and all changes are gone
> .. back to the default setup.
>
> These can be setup to force browser into kiosk mode .. etc.
>
> You could go whole hog and switch to terminal services for everything
> .. non-trivial .. but when done the pc image is small and secure .
> everything runs off the server[s], all data is on servers. Using a
> ghost image type server allows you to rebuild / roll back a unit
> anytime.
>
> I try to keep lab[s] stable from one semester to the next .. approx
> 12 hr days [open use] .. you are talk 24 x 7 .. get the money and
> support to make this a decent setup .. you will need to take the
> desktop/control completely away from the shift users .. you can show
> management the return on this change .. the users will adjust .. be
> open to different options .. do a little reading on zenworks for nt
> by novell. It works. Do not get sucked into us vs them stuff. Go with
> the right tool for the right job.
>
>
> http://www.smartstuff.com/fps/fpsinfo.html
>
> http://www.greyware.com/software/xo/index.asp
>
> /regards,
>
> /don
>
>
>
> On 27 May 2002 at 22:55, Jens Benecke wrote:
>
> > On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 11:26:53AM -0400, Gu1tarb0y@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > NT 4.0 SP6A STIG'd to NSA guidelines
> > > scenario:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > no solution, just a few ideas what we do here, and perhaps you can do
> > something similar.
> >
> > > The big guy wants me to let users surf the net responsibly (yeah
> > > right)) but restrict either their downloading OR AT LEAST the
> > > installation of software from the internet. I have less than 1..
> > > .. "1" so that for many installs, I have to undo that setting to load.
> >
> > I would do something like 'mount -o noexec /home', same for /tmp, as
> > these are usually the only partitions my users have write access to.
> > Preventing users from executing stuff on their home directory and in
> > /tmp will effectively prevent them from running their own programs.
> > Scripts are excluded of course (as long as the script interpreter lies
> > somewhere else).
> >
> > Is there some similar principle in Windows? Can you restrict people to
> > their home directory only, at all? I seem to remember that e.g. MS
> > Office wants write access all over the place, which makes life hard for
> > a secure multi-user environment.
> >
> > > Looking for options, suggestions, places to look. Issue 1: Keep the
> > > installation of unauthorized software at a minimum in a 24x7 shop
> > > where 3 shifts share machines and outages could affect 3 users. I
> > > prefer installation to require admin access. User would then place a
> > > service request for the needed software.
> >
> > Another principle we employ here is 'rsync'. rsync is a free tool that
> > synchronizes directories, files, or block devices (partitions) with an
> > emphasis on 'minimize network transfers'. On booting, the user is given
> > the option to boot normally or to restore a default system image from
> > the network. As only the parts are transferred over the network (and
> > written to disk) that have changed from the network image, this is
> > _really_ fast (usually under a minute for a 20GB harddisk).
> >
> > I assume there is software that is able to do similar things for
> > Windows, although a complete synchronization seems to be again made
> > impossible by unique system and registry keys (the only exceptions we
> > make are a few files in /etc which contain e.g. DHCP hostname, and log
> > files).
> >
> > > Issue 2) User's remove the password protected screensaver option
> > > while logged in. Prior to fielding to users, these setting were
> > > already configured in the registry for default users account and all
> > > existing accounts on the machine. Users manually undo this. If I
> > > remove the display option totally, users cannot customize the font
> > > size to their own visual abilities.
> >
> > Perhaps you can control this via some scripting stuff? On our desktops,
> > we can control almost every setting via DCOP
> > (http://www.google.com/search?q=dcop) commands, which can be used from
> > just about any scripting language there is (XML objects if everything
> > else fails).
> >
> > > option: a)Set NT group profile to remove the screensaver tab from user
> > > display option? b)Other suggestions?
> >
> > Well, these were just some ideas. Perhaps they point you to the right
> > direction. I have some Windows experience, but we don't do Windows here,
> > so I can't give you concrete examples.
> >
> >
> > --
> > mfg, Jens Benecke /// www.hitchhikers.de, www.linuxfaq.de, www.linux.ms
> > This mail is an attachment? Read
http://www.jensbenecke.de/misc/outlook.html
> >
>
>
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